What's the consensus about him? I keep watching him and thinking that he's a rare blend of talent, production, and toughness, but I've read a lot about people doubting his skills translating to the NFL. Where do you think he should be drafted(top 5/top 10 etc)? And how much do you think the Urban Meyer system is playing into his success?

mel kipers hair:

What's the consensus about him? I keep watching him and thinking that he's a rare blend of talent, production, and toughness, but I've read a lot about people doubting his skills translating to the NFL. Where do you think he should be drafted(top 5/top 10 etc)? And how much do you think the Urban Meyer system is playing into his success?

Well, as seen in my draft, I have us picking him in the 3rd round.

I just dont think he can stand the NFL pass coverage and defensive brute strength. He wont be able to barrel over LBs anymore. He cant make an exciting jump pass anymore, a CB or S will pick that off.

But, hey, I hope I am wrong because I have us getting him in the 3rd.

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Damn, he is so fast he outran his ribcage...

Way better skill set than Alex Smith and Smith went #1 overall i dont see Tebow going that far up but he will not be a second round pick he goes in the first round easy. Someone is going to take a chance on him cause of his skill set. His liability like Alex Smith is he plays in the spread offense and that dont translate well to the NFL.

Mel Kipers Hair in your wildest dreams will he be there for us in the third.

travis123:

Way better skill set than Alex Smith and Smith went #1 overall i dont see Tebow going that far up but he will not be a second round pick he goes in the first round easy. Someone is going to take a chance on him cause of his skill set. His liability like Alex Smith is he plays in the spread offense and that dont translate well to the NFL.

Mel Kipers Hair in your wildest dreams will he be there for us in the third.

Uh...no. I see him as a top 10-12 pick at the very lowest.

to be honest, I don't think he is worth the pick. He won't be able to transition into the speed of the NFL atm. He's more of a college quarterback. To be dead honest I think he should wait another year before entering the draft. I just see him as another Smith or Grossman =(

 

I wish Chase Daniel's was taller cause then i would say definently draft him...too bad hes only 6 foot. Maybe he can learn to play through that. I would actually like to see him drafted in all honesty though

I want us to draft Matthew Stafford. He's 6'3,has a pretty desent arm,good accuracy,and is under center alot. I think he can be our "franchise" quartback.

Taking Tebow would be a big risk. He's not a pro-style prospect, nor will he play in anything like the system he does in college. He's showed that he has nice touch, leadership, and toughness, but he hasn't shown the ability to consistently make NFL throws.

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i didnt think tim tebow was going to the draft. even if he does, he's not an nfl type qb. we better not draft him. the last thing we need is another florida qb

you are point nothing help pick top draft qb no bears need time bad offense come frist then qb you dont know nothing stay out my point

funsize1984:

i didnt think tim tebow was going to the draft. even if he does, he's not an nfl type qb. we better not draft him. the last thing we need is another florida qb

I agree no Tebow there are much better prospects, Stafford of Georgia, Sanchez of USC, Freeman of Kansas State, Cantwell of Louisville or even Nathen Brown of Central Arkansas. I would love for the /Bears to take a look at Jeremy Maclin of Missouri at WR what a talent that guy is.

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funsize1984:

i didnt think tim tebow was going to the draft. even if he does, he's not an nfl type qb. we better not draft him. the last thing we need is another florida qb

I agree no Tebow there are much better prospects, Stafford of Georgia, Sanchez of USC, Freeman of Kansas State, Cantwell of Louisville or even Nathen Brown of Central Arkansas. I would love for the /Bears to take a look at Jeremy Maclin of Missouri at WR what a talent that guy is.

So 2 guys who have been backups until this year a guy who doesn't play in D-1 (yes that's what I'm calling it) are better prospects than a guy who won the Heisman by doing the most of any player in college football ever has done? I'm sorry, but the only 2 in that list that are even comparable in talent are Stafford and Freeman, even then they don't come close to his production.

My honest opinion?

He'll be a bust.  he'll be the first QB taken off the board (by the Lions, I'm guessing, since the Rams are gonna go with an O-lineman) and he'll do nothing in the pros.  I am thinking top 3 pick, but mostly a product of the system he's in.  As I said, I think he'll be a bust.

Just like almost every other FLA* QB.

*by FLA, I mean the state of Florida, not the Univ. of Florida.

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funsize1984:

i didnt think tim tebow was going to the draft. even if he does, he's not an nfl type qb. we better not draft him. the last thing we need is another florida qb

Yeah, we shouldn't draft him because of the school he goes to...what? So, by this logic, no one should draft Percy Harvin because Florida wideouts haven't done as well as advertised.

mel kipers hair:

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funsize1984:

i didnt think tim tebow was going to the draft. even if he does, he's not an nfl type qb. we better not draft him. the last thing we need is another florida qb

I agree no Tebow there are much better prospects, Stafford of Georgia, Sanchez of USC, Freeman of Kansas State, Cantwell of Louisville or even Nathen Brown of Central Arkansas. I would love for the /Bears to take a look at Jeremy Maclin of Missouri at WR what a talent that guy is.

So 2 guys who have been backups until this year a guy who doesn't play in D-1 (yes that's what I'm calling it) are better prospects than a guy who won the Heisman by doing the most of any player in college football ever has done? I'm sorry, but the only 2 in that list that are even comparable in talent are Stafford and Freeman, even then they don't come close to his production.

My bad.........Troy Smith is an excellent pro QB also, Heisman means nothing, pro ability, strong arm being able to read a defense does. Who am I talking to JA???

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mel kipers hair:

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funsize1984:

i didnt think tim tebow was going to the draft. even if he does, he's not an nfl type qb. we better not draft him. the last thing we need is another florida qb

I agree no Tebow there are much better prospects, Stafford of Georgia, Sanchez of USC, Freeman of Kansas State, Cantwell of Louisville or even Nathen Brown of Central Arkansas. I would love for the /Bears to take a look at Jeremy Maclin of Missouri at WR what a talent that guy is.

So 2 guys who have been backups until this year a guy who doesn't play in D-1 (yes that's what I'm calling it) are better prospects than a guy who won the Heisman by doing the most of any player in college football ever has done? I'm sorry, but the only 2 in that list that are even comparable in talent are Stafford and Freeman, even then they don't come close to his production.

My bad.........Troy Smith is an excellent pro QB also, Heisman means nothing, pro ability, strong arm being able to read a defense does. Who am I talking to JA???

The point wasn't that he won the Heisman, the point was that he did it by doing things that hadn't been seen before by any player. He has plenty of arm strength, he can move well, and you don't put up stats like his in the SEC without being able to read defenses. Pass: 350-234-66.9-3286-32-6

If you were talking about JA we'd be talking about defensive ends.

mel kipers hair:

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funsize1984:

i didnt think tim tebow was going to the draft. even if he does, he's not an nfl type qb. we better not draft him. the last thing we need is another florida qb

I agree no Tebow there are much better prospects, Stafford of Georgia, Sanchez of USC, Freeman of Kansas State, Cantwell of Louisville or even Nathen Brown of Central Arkansas. I would love for the /Bears to take a look at Jeremy Maclin of Missouri at WR what a talent that guy is.

So 2 guys who have been backups until this year a guy who doesn't play in D-1 (yes that's what I'm calling it) are better prospects than a guy who won the Heisman by doing the most of any player in college football ever has done? I'm sorry, but the only 2 in that list that are even comparable in talent are Stafford and Freeman, even then they don't come close to his production.

My bad.........Troy Smith is an excellent pro QB also, Heisman means nothing, pro ability, strong arm being able to read a defense does. Who am I talking to JA???

The point wasn't that he won the Heisman, the point was that he did it by doing things that hadn't been seen before by any player. He has plenty of arm strength, he can move well, and you don't put up stats like his in the SEC without being able to read defenses. Pass: 350-234-66.9-3286-32-6 If you were talking about JA we'd be talking about defensive ends.

Sure you do, Rex Grossman is a prime example, but there are plenty of others. What Tebow has accomplished, he did so in a gimmicky college offense, the same one that made Alex Smith a #1 pick. There are much better pro prospects.

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BOB:

you are point nothing help pick top draft qb no bears need time bad offense come frist then qb you dont know nothing stay out my point

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funsize1984:

i didnt think tim tebow was going to the draft. even if he does, he's not an nfl type qb. we better not draft him. the last thing we need is another florida qb

I agree no Tebow there are much better prospects, Stafford of Georgia, Sanchez of USC, Freeman of Kansas State, Cantwell of Louisville or even Nathen Brown of Central Arkansas. I would love for the /Bears to take a look at Jeremy Maclin of Missouri at WR what a talent that guy is.

So 2 guys who have been backups until this year a guy who doesn't play in D-1 (yes that's what I'm calling it) are better prospects than a guy who won the Heisman by doing the most of any player in college football ever has done? I'm sorry, but the only 2 in that list that are even comparable in talent are Stafford and Freeman, even then they don't come close to his production.

My bad.........Troy Smith is an excellent pro QB also, Heisman means nothing, pro ability, strong arm being able to read a defense does. Who am I talking to JA???

The point wasn't that he won the Heisman, the point was that he did it by doing things that hadn't been seen before by any player. He has plenty of arm strength, he can move well, and you don't put up stats like his in the SEC without being able to read defenses. Pass: 350-234-66.9-3286-32-6

If you were talking about JA we'd be talking about defensive ends.

Sure you do, Rex Grossman is a prime example, but there are plenty of others. What Tebow has accomplished, he did so in a gimmicky college offense, the same one that made Alex Smith a #1 pick. There are much better pro prospects.

Maybe safer picks, but others with his potential?

Not to bump or anything, but how many QBs do people talk about on here that run some form of the spread? Chase Daniel gets a lot of man love, but he's in a variation of the spread or at least takes most of his snaps out of the shotgun(I don't know if they really call that the spread option, either way). Any Purdue QB from the Joe Tiller era has taken a lot of snaps out of the shotgun, Brandstater from Fresno St. As more and more teams run the spread, the more and more people are going to have to accept that it doesn't take away from the skills that a guy brings to the table.

I like QBs that play in pro-style offenses, complete at least 60-65% of their passes, throw 2 TDs to 1 INT (around there).

The reason I put some limits on the upper ends of the stats...a lot of QBs have put up better numbers than those listed above, and not many of them pan out in the NFL. If their numbers are way up there in the stratosphere, it's hard to gauge where a player falls in the NFL projections.

Tebow's played in a great system, but it's not pro-style at all. This is why I like guys like Stafford (although his completion % needs to get higher, as it is this year...).

I am still very mixed on Tebow, because his skills are through the roof. Tough runner, good arm, he's a playmaker...but there's been plenty of scrambling QBs in college that don't transition to the NFL.

mel kipers hair:

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funsize1984:

i didnt think tim tebow was going to the draft. even if he does, he's not an nfl type qb. we better not draft him. the last thing we need is another florida qb

I agree no Tebow there are much better prospects, Stafford of Georgia, Sanchez of USC, Freeman of Kansas State, Cantwell of Louisville or even Nathen Brown of Central Arkansas. I would love for the /Bears to take a look at Jeremy Maclin of Missouri at WR what a talent that guy is.

So 2 guys who have been backups until this year a guy who doesn't play in D-1 (yes that's what I'm calling it) are better prospects than a guy who won the Heisman by doing the most of any player in college football ever has done? I'm sorry, but the only 2 in that list that are even comparable in talent are Stafford and Freeman, even then they don't come close to his production.

My bad.........Troy Smith is an excellent pro QB also, Heisman means nothing, pro ability, strong arm being abl