Irish....
When has the US EVER enforced anything the remotely covers racial eveness??
South Africa??? NO
Angola? NO
Rhodesia??No
Lets try then...... religous cooperation....
Ireland?? Nope...
The former Yougoslavian republic?? NO
Saudi Arabia- Voted WORST religous human rights violator by Amnesty International- NO........
Ok... Lest see..... where HAS the US intervened in the last 30 years on "Humatarian grounds".......
Powerhouse Grenada......
Nicaragua- oh wait WE put Noreiaga in power too....
Kuwait- pretty close to Saudia Arabia.......
Did the US invade AFTER the following human rights violations????
Darfur??NO
Tianamen square??? NO...BUT we did say...."Not good guy's"...
Somolia? Watch "Blackhawk down" to see how we did there.....
Yemman?? Ask the 17 dead sailors families...how THAT went......
Uganda-?? 5-7 MIlLION killed in 20 year civil war.......
Um..... lets see...where else has "Human rights violations" occured......OH...YEAH....
Guantanomo Bay....
The bases we used in eastern europe that we FIRST denied even exsisted, THEN said we "ONLY tortured to get info" on............
Oh, yeah... thats us.... "Our bad"....
tdndenver: TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: Guess who OWNS America right now???? IF the Chinese cashed in all their T-bills......we'd go bankrupt..... And how is this information relevant to the Chinese government telling bars to refuse blacks and Mongols at bars?? This topic has NOTHING to do with politics or economics, this is a cultural matter. Talk about thread hijack. Um....what are we going to tell them??? "Start serving people that we only let vote in the last few decades??" Really...if you think that the Chinese will listen to a bunch of CBMB trolls complaining about the way they treat people then you have to be short bus material..... Wow, you have just jumped off into the deep end - PSYCHO. Treating others as human beings is a WORLDWIDE issue, NOT JUST AN AMERICAN ISSUE. Guess what, the UK banned slavery well before the US did. Also, by having the Olympics in China -- China agrees to be held to worldwide scrutiny. Why do you think China is converting squat toilets to western sit-down toilets? Its because they decided its their responsibility to accommodate the nations of the world. Also, the US does not run the Olympic committee.Also, YOU ARE THE TROLL hijacking this thread, you *** retard. Be sure to look up what a "forum troll" means before you use it, because you look stupid right now. We are discussing this matter of "China reportedly refusing service to blacks and Mongols." And you STILL SHOW NO RELEVANCE on how the economy has anything to do with it. HELLO?? Its a discussion! You think everything we discuss on this message board will be paid attention to the Bears front office?? Its freaking discussion! Seriously, what does "China owning the US" have anything to do with not serving blacks and Mongols in China?? Im waiting, genius. Well Forrest.... Since your mom had to "Gump" your way into school.... I'll tell you.... We COULD tell them "We are outraged by this" and they would simply tell us to go screw ourselfs.. like your mom and her brother did..... We are in such a weak position when it comes to China even YOU should be afraid.... IF you had a ounce of smarts... Guess it shows you dont have even a ounce..... "Run Forrest.....RUN"
TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: Guess who OWNS America right now???? IF the Chinese cashed in all their T-bills......we'd go bankrupt..... And how is this information relevant to the Chinese government telling bars to refuse blacks and Mongols at bars?? This topic has NOTHING to do with politics or economics, this is a cultural matter. Talk about thread hijack. Um....what are we going to tell them??? "Start serving people that we only let vote in the last few decades??" Really...if you think that the Chinese will listen to a bunch of CBMB trolls complaining about the way they treat people then you have to be short bus material..... Wow, you have just jumped off into the deep end - PSYCHO. Treating others as human beings is a WORLDWIDE issue, NOT JUST AN AMERICAN ISSUE. Guess what, the UK banned slavery well before the US did. Also, by having the Olympics in China -- China agrees to be held to worldwide scrutiny. Why do you think China is converting squat toilets to western sit-down toilets? Its because they decided its their responsibility to accommodate the nations of the world. Also, the US does not run the Olympic committee.Also, YOU ARE THE TROLL hijacking this thread, you *** retard. Be sure to look up what a "forum troll" means before you use it, because you look stupid right now. We are discussing this matter of "China reportedly refusing service to blacks and Mongols." And you STILL SHOW NO RELEVANCE on how the economy has anything to do with it. HELLO?? Its a discussion! You think everything we discuss on this message board will be paid attention to the Bears front office?? Its freaking discussion! Seriously, what does "China owning the US" have anything to do with not serving blacks and Mongols in China?? Im waiting, genius.
tdndenver: TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: Guess who OWNS America right now???? IF the Chinese cashed in all their T-bills......we'd go bankrupt..... And how is this information relevant to the Chinese government telling bars to refuse blacks and Mongols at bars?? This topic has NOTHING to do with politics or economics, this is a cultural matter. Talk about thread hijack. Um....what are we going to tell them??? "Start serving people that we only let vote in the last few decades??" Really...if you think that the Chinese will listen to a bunch of CBMB trolls complaining about the way they treat people then you have to be short bus material.....
TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: Guess who OWNS America right now???? IF the Chinese cashed in all their T-bills......we'd go bankrupt..... And how is this information relevant to the Chinese government telling bars to refuse blacks and Mongols at bars?? This topic has NOTHING to do with politics or economics, this is a cultural matter. Talk about thread hijack.
tdndenver: Guess who OWNS America right now???? IF the Chinese cashed in all their T-bills......we'd go bankrupt.....
Guess who OWNS America right now????
IF the Chinese cashed in all their T-bills......we'd go bankrupt.....
Um....what are we going to tell them??? "Start serving people that we only let vote in the last few decades??"
Really...if you think that the Chinese will listen to a bunch of CBMB trolls complaining about the way they treat people then you have to be short bus material.....
Well Forrest....
Since your mom had to "Gump" your way into school.... I'll tell you....
We COULD tell them "We are outraged by this" and they would simply tell us to go screw ourselfs.. like your mom and her brother did.....
We are in such a weak position when it comes to China even YOU should be afraid.... IF you had a ounce of smarts...
Guess it shows you dont have even a ounce.....
"Run Forrest.....RUN"
TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: Guess who OWNS America right now???? IF the Chinese cashed in all their T-bills......we'd go bankrupt..... And how is this information relevant to the Chinese government telling bars to refuse blacks and Mongols at bars?? This topic has NOTHING to do with politics or economics, this is a cultural matter. Talk about thread hijack. Um....what are we going to tell them??? "Start serving people that we only let vote in the last few decades??" Really...if you think that the Chinese will listen to a bunch of CBMB trolls complaining about the way they treat people then you have to be short bus material..... Wow, you have just jumped off into the deep end - PSYCHO. Treating others as human beings is a WORLDWIDE issue, NOT JUST AN AMERICAN ISSUE. Guess what, the UK banned slavery well before the US did. Also, by having the Olympics in China -- China agrees to be held to worldwide scrutiny. Why do you think China is converting squat toilets to western sit-down toilets? Its because they decided its their responsibility to accommodate the nations of the world. Also, the US does not run the Olympic committee.Also, YOU ARE THE TROLL hijacking this thread, you *** retard. Be sure to look up what a "forum troll" means before you use it, because you look stupid right now. We are discussing this matter of "China reportedly refusing service to blacks and Mongols." And you STILL SHOW NO RELEVANCE on how the economy has anything to do with it. HELLO?? Its a discussion! You think everything we discuss on this message board will be paid attention to the Bears front office?? Its freaking discussion! Seriously, what does "China owning the US" have anything to do with not serving blacks and Mongols in China?? Im waiting, genius. Well Forrest.... Since your mom had to "Gump" your way into school.... I'll tell you.... We COULD tell them "We are outraged by this" and they would simply tell us to go screw ourselfs.. like your mom and her brother did..... We are in such a weak position when it comes to China even YOU should be afraid.... IF you had a ounce of smarts... Guess it shows you dont have even a ounce..... "Run Forrest.....RUN" America is in a weak position?? I think not. How about the poisonous pet food scandal? America reacted to this toxic pet food from China through the market. People stopped buying this dog food, and the pet food makers stopped buying garbage protein from China. Did China say go eff ourselves? No, they promised to change.How about the high level of lead in toys from China? Americans let the market speak for itself. People stopped buying cheap toys from China in droves, and even avoided toys from reputable manufacturers who had known lead problems. Did China tell the US to go eff ourselves? No, the Chinese promised to eliminate this lead in their toys.Also, the relationship between China and the US goes both ways. The US has the demand for cheap crap, and China provides cheap labor. Without the US's demand for cheap manufacturing, China's industries will suffer. Without China, the price of goods will increase (though it will be made somewhere else that has cheap labor).By the way, EVERYTHING you have said has no factual basis. Everything you have said, you pulled out of your @$$. You base your whole argument of "the US has no say in China" has no basis and is not supported by any facts. All you CAN do is fluff up your piss poor statements with Forrest Gump references. The 90s called, they want their references back.Also, you STILL havent said what "China owning the US" has anything to do with not serving blacks and Mongols in China?? Im STILL waiting, genius.
Slinging insults does NOT help your argument.
*Deep Breath*
Ok,... I'll try to explain it one more time for you.....
#1 China OWNS 1.7 TRILLION ( Thats like a one with a TON of zero's behind it) of our T-bills.....
Guess what props up our economy?? T-bills.... They "Really" own your house.... They own the money that the bank gave you to pay for your house...see??
#2- Your "Lead paint" item- first off.. IT was banned in the US in 1978:
NOW.... the reason China was allowed was because of MONEY again... Wal-mart...THE biggest buyer of Chinese crap.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/11/business/worldbusiness/11lead.html?ei=5088&en=da8ac91c82624f80&ex=1347163200&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
The one I love is "Of the 39 recalls for lead paint issue, 38 were Chinese made items".......
Same with the Pet food scandal....
Bush wont allow us to SUE them....WHY? They OWN us...
http://www.dolittler.com/index.cfm/2007/4/6/pet.vet.dog.cat.pet%20food%20recall.malpractice.4.6.07
"Who will ultimately pay? I can assure you that there’s no political will in our government to let any of us sue China over pets."
Because of the FACT that China OWNS so much of our debt, 1.7 TRILLION dollars.... Bush doesnt make waves...
Chinese shoot Tiebetans... "Bush is concerned"- From a 2005 article... WHat happened since?? Oh yeah..... THEY shot Tibetan's....
"The delicate diplomatic dance illustrated Bush's complex relationship with China as he leaves tomorrow on his first trip to Asia since reelection. Meeting with the spiritual leader of the repressed Tibetan people just before heading to Beijing was intended to send a signal about Bush's commitment to human rights in the world's most populous country. Yet the effort to keep the session essentially out of public view was intended to avoid insulting to his soon-to-be hosts."
So, to answer your simple question....simply....
China OWNS the US, and they can tell ANYONE they cannot drink in ANY bar. AND there is NOTHING we will do about it.....
Lets see...Shooting Tibetans.......OK as long as we get cheap "Thomas the Tank engines toys" from you guy's its okey-dokey........
Finch2:I wonder if they are going to serve those pesky White Russians?
Back in 1980 ( I think) we boycotted the Olympics in the USSR didn't we? It seems like a friend of my older brother was upset at that because he'd spent the last two years learning Russian so he could attend as an interpreter.
Why can't we just boycott these olympics?
Oh yeah, Wal-Mart would go out of buisiness. Sorry...
Mr. Obvious:A Chinese dude walks into a bar with his pet alligator. He ask the bartender if he serves Mongolians, the bartender replies yes. Great says the Chinese dude....give me a beer ...and give my alligator two Mongolians.
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tdndenver: TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: tdndenver: Guess who OWNS America right now???? IF the Chinese cashed in all their T-bills......we'd go bankrupt..... And how is this information relevant to the Chinese government telling bars to refuse blacks and Mongols at bars?? This topic has NOTHING to do with politics or economics, this is a cultural matter. Talk about thread hijack. Um....what are we going to tell them??? "Start serving people that we only let vote in the last few decades??" Really...if you think that the Chinese will listen to a bunch of CBMB trolls complaining about the way they treat people then you have to be short bus material..... Wow, you have just jumped off into the deep end - PSYCHO. Treating others as human beings is a WORLDWIDE issue, NOT JUST AN AMERICAN ISSUE. Guess what, the UK banned slavery well before the US did. Also, by having the Olympics in China -- China agrees to be held to worldwide scrutiny. Why do you think China is converting squat toilets to western sit-down toilets? Its because they decided its their responsibility to accommodate the nations of the world. Also, the US does not run the Olympic committee.Also, YOU ARE THE TROLL hijacking this thread, you *** retard. Be sure to look up what a "forum troll" means before you use it, because you look stupid right now. We are discussing this matter of "China reportedly refusing service to blacks and Mongols." And you STILL SHOW NO RELEVANCE on how the economy has anything to do with it. HELLO?? Its a discussion! You think everything we discuss on this message board will be paid attention to the Bears front office?? Its freaking discussion! Seriously, what does "China owning the US" have anything to do with not serving blacks and Mongols in China?? Im waiting, genius. Well Forrest.... Since your mom had to "Gump" your way into school.... I'll tell you.... We COULD tell them "We are outraged by this" and they would simply tell us to go screw ourselfs.. like your mom and her brother did..... We are in such a weak position when it comes to China even YOU should be afraid.... IF you had a ounce of smarts... Guess it shows you dont have even a ounce..... "Run Forrest.....RUN" America is in a weak position?? I think not. How about the poisonous pet food scandal? America reacted to this toxic pet food from China through the market. People stopped buying this dog food, and the pet food makers stopped buying garbage protein from China. Did China say go eff ourselves? No, they promised to change.How about the high level of lead in toys from China? Americans let the market speak for itself. People stopped buying cheap toys from China in droves, and even avoided toys from reputable manufacturers who had known lead problems. Did China tell the US to go eff ourselves? No, the Chinese promised to eliminate this lead in their toys.Also, the relationship between China and the US goes both ways. The US has the demand for cheap crap, and China provides cheap labor. Without the US's demand for cheap manufacturing, China's industries will suffer. Without China, the price of goods will increase (though it will be made somewhere else that has cheap labor).By the way, EVERYTHING you have said has no factual basis. Everything you have said, you pulled out of your @$$. You base your whole argument of "the US has no say in China" has no basis and is not supported by any facts. All you CAN do is fluff up your piss poor statements with Forrest Gump references. The 90s called, they want their references back.Also, you STILL havent said what "China owning the US" has anything to do with not serving blacks and Mongols in China?? Im STILL waiting, genius. *Deep Breath* Ok,... I'll try to explain it one more time for you..... #1 China OWNS 1.7 TRILLION ( Thats like a one with a TON of zero's behind it) of our T-bills..... Guess what props up our economy?? T-bills.... They "Really" own your house.... They own the money that the bank gave you to pay for your house...see?? #2- Your "Lead paint" item- first off.. IT was banned in the US in 1978: Lead Paint was banned in U.S. residential paint in 1978. (It was banned in France and many other countries prior to 1920.) Three-quarters of the nation's housing contains lead paint. Lead poisoning is a serious disease. Children under six are most at risk. NOW.... the reason China was allowed was because of MONEY again... Wal-mart...THE biggest buyer of Chinese crap. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/11/business/worldbusiness/11lead.html?ei=5088&en=da8ac91c82624f80&ex=1347163200&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print The one I love is "Of the 39 recalls for lead paint issue, 38 were Chinese made items"....... Same with the Pet food scandal.... Bush wont allow us to SUE them....WHY? They OWN us... http://www.dolittler.com/index.cfm/2007/4/6/pet.vet.dog.cat.pet%20food%20recall.malpractice.4.6.07 "Who will ultimately pay? I can assure you that there’s no political will in our government to let any of us sue China over pets." Because of the FACT that China OWNS so much of our debt, 1.7 TRILLION dollars.... Bush doesnt make waves... Chinese shoot Tiebetans... "Bush is concerned"- From a 2005 article... WHat happened since?? Oh yeah..... THEY shot Tibetan's.... "The delicate diplomatic dance illustrated Bush's complex relationship with China as he leaves tomorrow on his first trip to Asia since reelection. Meeting with the spiritual leader of the repressed Tibetan people just before heading to Beijing was intended to send a signal about Bush's commitment to human rights in the world's most populous country. Yet the effort to keep the session essentially out of public view was intended to avoid insulting to his soon-to-be hosts." So, to answer your simple question....simply.... China OWNS the US, and they can tell ANYONE they cannot drink in ANY bar. AND there is NOTHING we will do about it..... Lets see...Shooting Tibetans.......OK as long as we get cheap "Thomas the Tank engines toys" from you guy's its okey-dokey........
Our view on national fiscal security: Look who owns U.S. debt now Other nations hold a record 52% of it, leaving U.S. economy vulnerable.There is nothing inherently wrong with foreigners owning American debt. In fact, these and other investments pouring into the USA help keep interest rates relatively low and the dollar relatively strong. To some degree, these investments reflect confidence in the American economy. But the very things that make this infusion of cash attractive also spell trouble. The growing reliance on foreigners, in many cases foreign central banks, reflects a nation digging itself further into debt and denial....Many developing nations buy treasury bills not because they are deemed to be the best investment, but to support their own monetary polices. The Chinese, for instance, do so as part of a strategy to keep their currency artificially low against the dollar. This holds down the cost of Chinese goods, helping the Chinese economy but making U.S. goods less competitive. The problem needs to be attacked from a number of fronts. The government needs to borrow less. And foreign holders of all of these IOUs need to realize that a gradual diversification of their portfolios would be in everyone's interest.
There is nothing inherently wrong with foreigners owning American debt. In fact, these and other investments pouring into the USA help keep interest rates relatively low and the dollar relatively strong. To some degree, these investments reflect confidence in the American economy. But the very things that make this infusion of cash attractive also spell trouble.
The growing reliance on foreigners, in many cases foreign central banks, reflects a nation digging itself further into debt and denial.
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Many developing nations buy treasury bills not because they are deemed to be the best investment, but to support their own monetary polices. The Chinese, for instance, do so as part of a strategy to keep their currency artificially low against the dollar. This holds down the cost of Chinese goods, helping the Chinese economy but making U.S. goods less competitive.
The problem needs to be attacked from a number of fronts. The government needs to borrow less. And foreign holders of all of these IOUs need to realize that a gradual diversification of their portfolios would be in everyone's interest.
Bassman45:Slinging insults does NOT help your argument.