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Last post 07-23-2009, 5:30 PM by bears857299. 31 replies.
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  •  07-08-2009, 1:40 PM 1664955 in reply to 1663363

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    Re: Offseason Thread

    Versteeg signed, 3 years ~$10 million.

    Now time to redo the lines:

    Kane-Toews-Sharp
    Versteeg-Bolland-Hossa
    Buff-Kopecky/Madden-Ladd
    Eager-Madden/Kopecky-Burish

    I see Fraser as the definite odd man out and I don't know where Brouwer will fit in now.

    "...I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can.
    Perhaps I may become a highwayman again.
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  •  07-08-2009, 1:53 PM 1664973 in reply to 1664955

    Re: Offseason Thread

    nice! but how are we doing on the cap though ? glad to see the signings!
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  •  07-08-2009, 1:53 PM 1664975 in reply to 1664955

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    Re: Offseason Thread

    So depending on who you talk to, with all the signings the Hawks are either right up against the cap or over by as much as $4 million.

    Either way they need to dump some salary soon.

    "...I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can.
    Perhaps I may become a highwayman again.
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    But I will remain,
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  •  07-08-2009, 11:54 PM 1665835 in reply to 1664975

    Re: Offseason Thread

    tahnks for the info brotha! beer [*B*] , i wonder who they might dum off ??? i though t maybe campbell or huet? but not sure w/ huet cause his hit. wonder if there looking at trading someone , who you think bears85 ?
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  •  07-09-2009, 12:14 AM 1665863 in reply to 1665835

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    Re: Offseason Thread

    rexyfan08:
    tahnks for the info brotha! beer [*B*] , i wonder who they might dum off ??? i though t maybe campbell or huet? but not sure w/ huet cause his hit. wonder if there looking at trading someone , who you think bears85 ?


    Well it's possible they waive/send down some players during/after training camp which will take their salaries off the books. As for who can/will be traded I'd look at it like this.

    Top 6 forwards:
    Toews
    Kane
    Hossa
    Sharp
    Versteeg
    Bolland

    Top 4 Defense:
    Seabrook
    Keith
    Campbell
    Barker or Hjalmarsson

    Everyone else is possible trade bait.

    Campbell gets a lot of crap, and a lot of it is warranted, but he's added a new element to our offense with his ability to carry the puck in himself both on the PP and even strength. Pair him with a stay at home, sound defenseman and have him cut back on his mistakes and he should be fine and probably won't go anywhere.

    Huet can't be traded. Not so much because of his contract but if we don't get a goalie in return we'll go with 2 rookies and thats a recipe for disaster.

    Fraser probably gets waived or sent to Rockford, and possibly Brouwer as well. Sopel is possible trade bait but probably not until he proves his is healthy and can still play well.

    There is a possibility Beach, Aliu, or Skille could make a strong push to make the team this year. Beach(and possibly Aliu, not sure) is not old enough to play in the AHL so he either makes the Hawks or plays with his Jr. team. Beach and Aliu are tough guys so they could displace the likes of Fraser, Eager, or Burish, though I doubt it.

    I can see the Hawks putting Buff and Barker on the trading block to see what they can get. I don't want to see either go but I'd be willing to listen to offers. Rumors are also out their Sharp may get forced out the door next year to clear room to sign the big 3 next summer.

    "...I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can.
    Perhaps I may become a highwayman again.
    Or I may simply be a single drop of rain,
    But I will remain,
    And I'll be back again, and again, and again..."
  •  07-09-2009, 12:34 AM 1665869 in reply to 1664973

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    Re: Offseason Thread

    rexyfan08:
    nice! but how are we doing on the cap though ? glad to see the signings!

    Ok, I don't fully understand all this cap stuff but here is my understanding after some more research(don't take it as absolute fact):

    The Hawks are both over and under the cap. Let me explain.

    The Hawks have 23 players signed right now, and are over the salary cap.

    However, if a team so chooses they can go into the bonus cap, which is 7.5% of the salary cap limit and usable if players make certain performance bonuses. In this case the Hawks are about $1.4 million under that absolute limit. Here is where it gets dangerous though, if you use any of the bonus amount it gets tacked onto your salary cap in the next year, decreasing the amount of money you have to sign players.

    Dale says we are actually under both cap limits because though we have 23 players signed the Hawks usually only carry 21 so some salary will get shed before the start of the season.

    "...I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can.
    Perhaps I may become a highwayman again.
    Or I may simply be a single drop of rain,
    But I will remain,
    And I'll be back again, and again, and again..."
  •  07-23-2009, 5:30 PM 1681831 in reply to 1665869

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    Re: Offseason Thread

    Hossa is out for 4 months with a shoulder injury he got in the playoffs. Yippee

    "...I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can.
    Perhaps I may become a highwayman again.
    Or I may simply be a single drop of rain,
    But I will remain,
    And I'll be back again, and again, and again..."
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