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  •  11-01-2009, 6:37 PM 1882746 in reply to 1882716

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Year Team G rush yds avg lg td rec avg td
    2009 CHI 4 5 28 5.6 15 0 2 5.5 0
    2008 CHI 15 20 100 5.0 16 0 6 7.5 0
    2007 CHI 16 151 510 3.4 21 3 51 8.2 0
    2006 CHI 16 10 41 4.1 11 2 6 14.7 0
    2005 CHI 16 76 391 5.1 36 2 7 6.9 0

     

    These are A.P's numbers look at yrs with a few carries and the yr he had 151. It happens to all back ups. I would like to see A.P get some more carries 70% forte 15% A.P wolfe

  •  11-01-2009, 6:42 PM 1882762 in reply to 1882729

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    jerdawg53:
    If we would have given little Wolfe the ball 100 times he would have gotten 1,000 yards!!!!!!!


    Thats what I'm talkin about!
  •  11-01-2009, 6:56 PM 1882806 in reply to 1882728

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    SZOMP:

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?


    He picks it up his yds in garbage time.  Just like the long run he had today!  We seen what Wolf could do when he gets a oppurtunity and thats nothin. 


    He is talanted but with are OL, he wouldt last.  He would get broke.



    You're basing that on the one carry he had earlier in the game? LOL
  •  11-01-2009, 7:34 PM 1882948 in reply to 1882511

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    niu007:
    beav720:

    Resolute:
    Wolfe wouldn't average no more than 2 or 3 if he got more carries. He's only good in limited situations. YPCs don't always tell the whole story. 5-10 is all he's good for.


    People dont understand this concept. Same can be said for AP. Go look at his stats. The more carries the faster ur c his ypc go down



    Although his ypc may drop with more carries, what I don't agree with is the assumption that after a lot of carries, Wolfe's average would be worse than Forte's, or at least significantly worse, just because he's small, without basing it on any data. We do not know what he is capable of yet at this level, because he never carries it that many times. I'd like to see him get a few more carries. Also, when people talk about leaving a RB in there long enough to get into a rhythm, Wolfe is never in there enough to do that.

    None of the Bears RBs are going to average many ypc behind this O-line, today's breather notwithstanding. So you're not going to have a huge dropoff in any case.

    It doesn't have much to do with his size. Most of his carries right now are coming in the fourth quarter, so he's coming in with fresh legs and running against defenses that are worn down.
  •  11-01-2009, 7:45 PM 1882976 in reply to 1882948

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Matt Forte; 2 TDs.

    Garret Wolfe; offsides penalty that basically gave the Browns 6 points.

    Thats a +20 point advantage in Forte's favor.


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  •  11-01-2009, 7:49 PM 1882990 in reply to 1882486

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    He's doing well in an expanded role this year. Should he get a majority of the carries? Heck no, but I feel real comfortable with him coming in for two or three series each game.
  •  11-01-2009, 7:58 PM 1883020 in reply to 1882367

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?
    Dude no doubt, I don't care what anyone say's the stats don't lie Wolfe is the man, his height is not whats important , the man is strong fast and driven I personally (as I've been saying for years!) would like to see more Wolfe....besides what did he average today? over 10 yards per carry?
  •  11-01-2009, 8:19 PM 1883077 in reply to 1883020

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Let's see, it's been 3 years and we have no idea what Wolffie is all about. Use him or cut him, but what stupid ars Turner is doing is getting old.  He runs the same plays as if Benson were in there.
  •  11-01-2009, 8:26 PM 1883095 in reply to 1883077

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Didnt we say the same thing about AP when Benson was still with us.. I dont think AP's YPC were the same after he started getting full time duties, in fact i think they were the same as Bensons.  So unless the O line gets better, i dont think it matters who carries the ball.
  •  11-01-2009, 9:10 PM 1883195 in reply to 1883095

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    OffTheBusRunning:
    Didnt we say the same thing about AP when Benson was still with us.. I dont think AP's YPC were the same after he started getting full time duties, in fact i think they were the same as Bensons.  So unless the O line gets better, i dont think it matters who carries the ball.


    That's kind of what I'm getting at. There's not much difference if you have Forte or AP or Wolfe in there. I'm not saying Wolfe is better than the others. Just that there isn't this big dropoff that people seem to think.
  •  11-01-2009, 10:12 PM 1883345 in reply to 1883195

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    niu007:
    OffTheBusRunning:
    Didnt we say the same thing about AP when Benson was still with us.. I dont think AP's YPC were the same after he started getting full time duties, in fact i think they were the same as Bensons.  So unless the O line gets better, i dont think it matters who carries the ball.
    That's kind of what I'm getting at. There's not much difference if you have Forte or AP or Wolfe in there. I'm not saying Wolfe is better than the others. Just that there isn't this big dropoff that people seem to think.


    Agreed!!!
  •  11-01-2009, 10:16 PM 1883352 in reply to 1883345

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    I really root for Wolfe, I think he deserves more playing time and brings a different element to the RB position.
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  •  11-01-2009, 10:28 PM 1883391 in reply to 1883352

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Wolf impressively carved up that down-and-out, ready to go home defense with his fresh legs and time to shine attitude.
  •  11-01-2009, 10:41 PM 1883421 in reply to 1883352

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns


    If Forte was lighting it up I may not go along with this, but what do we have to lose? Wolfe did look good today, and every team in the league splits carries.

    I am really confused by some people here talking about Wolfe's yards in garbage time being less meaningful. At the end of a game we are winning, when everybody knows every play will be a run, and he still gets yards. It's much tougher to get nice gains when there is no element of surprise, the Browns knew Wolfe was getting the ball and he still had success. Forte had carries when the Bears were still throwing the ball and he didn't do squat.
  •  11-01-2009, 10:42 PM 1883425 in reply to 1882642

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    niu007:
    bearsfan1985:
    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?


    L.M.F.A. O.....I told my wife earlier there would be a thread like this after the game...it was a big run in garbage time that skewed his numbers....GMAFB


    So I keep hearing that you can't subtract Forte's occasional big run from his average ypc - why can you exclude Wolfe's big run? Anyway, Wolfe's average without that run is 4.25 ypc, vs. Forte's 3.5 ypc. So even if you exclude his big run, and then assume his ypc would drop with more carries, he might still have a better average than Forte.

    Wolfe only got 1 carry that wasn't in mop up time so it's hard to compare. But still, stop trying to rationalize the nice runs that Wolfe has in his limited carries. A lot of backs wouldn't have been fast enough to get the corner on that play, mop up time or not.

    Yeah, and a 30+ yard run is good against anyone anytime. They were playing against the run too.
  •  11-01-2009, 10:44 PM 1883433 in reply to 1883391

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    At this point, I don't care who it is running the ball, as long as they are getting it done. I don't think expanding Wolfe's carries is wise though. I think where he's at now is what makes him as effective as he has been. He's fresher than opposing defenses, they being used to the speed and style of Matt, so whenever Wolfe comes in his speed is a little bit of a change of pace they aren't completely ready for. Give him more time, and they have more time to get used to him. Leave it the way it is.
  •  11-01-2009, 10:47 PM 1883438 in reply to 1883421

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    number51:

    If Forte was lighting it up I may not go along with this, but what do we have to lose? Wolfe did look good today, and every team in the league splits carries.

    I am really confused by some people here talking about Wolfe's yards in garbage time being less meaningful. At the end of a game we are winning, when everybody knows every play will be a run, and he still gets yards. It's much tougher to get nice gains when there is no element of surprise, the Browns knew Wolfe was getting the ball and he still had success. Forte had carries when the Bears were still throwing the ball and he didn't do squat.

    Yeah he played good today. It sucks that he didn't score on that run though. I liked the run when it took the hole Cleveland team to push Wolfe back, that showed how weak he is... sarcasm. Wolfe hits the holes when they are there and when there are no holes he makes something out of nothing, just like on his 35 yard run there was no hole. Just give him a chance. People need to quit using his size as an excuse because it does not matter. Just because someone is 240 pounds doesn't mean they will be a good running back like what some people are saying on here.
  •  11-01-2009, 10:54 PM 1883454 in reply to 1882568

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    68Bearblood:
    Watching the game  closely, I think Forte is missing some holes that are there, dont always balme it on the line. Forte is doing to much of running up the back of his line, I cant count how many times he could have bounced it out and picked up more yards, so some of it is Fortes fault.
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  •  11-01-2009, 10:54 PM 1883455 in reply to 1882728

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    SZOMP:

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?


    He picks it up his yds in garbage time.  Just like the long run he had today!  We seen what Wolf could do when he gets a oppurtunity and thats nothin. 


    He is talanted but with are OL, he wouldt last.  He would get broke.


    When will people stop using his size as an excuse for why they don't think he can do it, can't they use something else? Size doesn't matter.
  •  11-01-2009, 11:37 PM 1883539 in reply to 1883455

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    DaBears253313:
    SZOMP:

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?


    He picks it up his yds in garbage time.  Just like the long run he had today!  We seen what Wolf could do when he gets a oppurtunity and thats nothin. 


    He is talanted but with are OL, he wouldt last.  He would get broke.


    When will people stop using his size as an excuse for why they don't think he can do it, can't they use something else? Size doesn't matter.


    In the NFL? Yeah, it kinda does.
  •  11-01-2009, 11:39 PM 1883544 in reply to 1883455

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    DaBears253313:
    SZOMP:

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?


    He picks it up his yds in garbage time.  Just like the long run he had today!  We seen what Wolf could do when he gets a oppurtunity and thats nothin. 


    He is talanted but with are OL, he wouldt last.  He would get broke.


    When will people stop using his size as an excuse for why they don't think he can do it, can't they use something else? Size doesn't matter.


    Yeah, that's why the NFL is full of 5'9" offensive lineman.
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  •  11-01-2009, 11:47 PM 1883554 in reply to 1883544

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Omeletpants:
    DaBears253313:
    SZOMP:

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?


    He picks it up his yds in garbage time.  Just like the long run he had today!  We seen what Wolf could do when he gets a oppurtunity and thats nothin. 


    He is talanted but with are OL, he wouldt last.  He would get broke.


    When will people stop using his size as an excuse for why they don't think he can do it, can't they use something else? Size doesn't matter.


    Yeah, that's why the NFL is full of 5'9" offensive lineman.


    Ummm Garrett Wolfe is not an offensive lineman, so I don't know what point you are trying to make?
  •  11-01-2009, 11:48 PM 1883557 in reply to 1883544

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    There are three main reasons why wolfe is running better than Forte against the browns.

    1. Forte ran against Shaun Rodgers, Wolfe did not

    2. Wolfe ran less times than Forte, he had somehting to prove, and no one cared to stop the run when he is in.

    3. Everytime Wolfe gets the handoff, he doesnt just run, he runs to save his life. Runs with fear, like that old RB (chargers i believe) who was one of the most elusive runners.


    "A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year."--Walter Payton
  •  11-01-2009, 11:49 PM 1883558 in reply to 1882729

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    After todays game I'm putting more blame on Turner, he's not too tricky or creative.  Usually he'll bring in Wolfe or Peterson for a series.  I like the idea of bringing in Wolfe at various times and formations, you know random.  Our line is bad but Ron only seems to make things worse.  Still no matter what, I'm sure Wolfe can't be your ever down back, I'd have to agree with the earlier post "he'd get broke"
  •  11-01-2009, 11:52 PM 1883563 in reply to 1883539

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    emaugust:
    DaBears253313:
    SZOMP:

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?


    He picks it up his yds in garbage time.  Just like the long run he had today!  We seen what Wolf could do when he gets a oppurtunity and thats nothin. 


    He is talanted but with are OL, he wouldt last.  He would get broke.


    When will people stop using his size as an excuse for why they don't think he can do it, can't they use something else? Size doesn't matter.


    In the NFL? Yeah, it kinda does.

    Okay if size matters, why is Khalil Bell not playing? He is bigger than Garrett Wolfe so he must be better right?
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