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Meet Jay Cutler
Last post 07-08-2009, 3:30 PM by GeorgiaJeff. 131 replies.
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Sorry.... this made me chuckle... same sentence... "over the top"... "Walter like Forte"... I am for both being reminders of their [HOF] comparison counterparts, but I just had to chime in. : )
CClan:
"A bit over the top but a good read. He'll for sure get along with Kruetz and our offense should finally have its attitude back, fortified with the quiet "walter" like Forte."
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Not that it's a huge deal on his reps for bench... (meaning between 23-30)
"Cutler can bench press 405 pounds, and at the NFL Scouting Combine he put together a string of 23 bench repetitions of 225 pounds. In his four seasons, Vanderbilt coaches say, he missed only one practice, and he has bulked up by about 40 pounds since his freshman season."
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-04-18-cutler-cover_x.htm
Now... lets get that ring peeps!!!
Getting the ring... that's the plan : )
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CClanConan:He can throw across his body and off the wrong foot. He can throw laser shots with both feet airborne. I have seen him throw a 35-yard frozen rope when his body was completely horizontal, off the ground, and draped with a 325 lbs. lineman. Jay Cutler has the strongest, most powerful FUNCTIONING arm in the NFL. " Jay Cutler is 10 feet tall. Shoots lasers out of his eyes, and fireballs out of his I luv my behind. if HE were here... lol .
My God, I don't want to even speculate on what will happen to Cutler if the Bears don't make the playoffs.
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billwade:
CClanConan:He can throw across his body and off the wrong foot. He can throw laser shots with both feet airborne. I have seen him throw a 35-yard frozen rope when his body was completely horizontal, off the ground, and draped with a 325 lbs. lineman. Jay Cutler has the strongest, most powerful FUNCTIONING arm in the NFL. " Jay Cutler is 10 feet tall. Shoots lasers out of his eyes, and fireballs out of his I luv my behind. if HE were here... lol .
My God, I don't want to even speculate on what will happen to Cutler if the Bears don't make the playoffs.
If the Bears don't make the playoffs, he'll be our starting Strong Side Linebacker.......maybe he'll be the first modern day player to play both ways....QB and SAM....then go off after the game and run a 10k along LakeShore Drive
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Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
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Spring Forth wrote the following post at 05-23-2009 4:46 PM:
The thing about winning the most SuperBowls ever... yeah, that's the part I care about! What makes me feel good about Jay and everything surrounding him and our Organization is that he's a Midwestern boy, like the majority of us; he was a childhood Bears fan, like us, and he's young.
Its like Denver was just practice for him to get ready for his REAL career as the best Chicago Bears QB ever, hopefully, in 10 or so years, we'll be thanking him for the memories and remembering a Golden Era of Chicago Bears history with a plethora of young stars on Offense and Defense.
Cutler, Hester, Olsen, Forte & Kreutz - Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman, Brown & Harris and the list goes on... is it September yet!?!?!
Sorry Spring... I couldn't help but notice the "like us's" ended on Jay's being young... not like us...lol
Optimisism is good... Crushing opponents... much better...
Nev
Getting the ring... that's the plan : )
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05-25-2009, 1:58 PM |
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Bearsfan1102:
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Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
Very much appreciated, but I disagree.
Was it silly for me to say that Michael Jordan would be the best player to ever pick up a basketball when he was a freshman at Carolina? 'Cause I said that.
Was it silly for me to say that John Elway would lead his team to more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history? 'Cause I said that too when Elway was a senior at Stanford.
Silly is as silly does, and I'm going with my eyes, ears, and instincts, not to mention my track record.
I know the goods when I see them and he's the best.
GO BEARS!!!!!!
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Bearsfan1102:
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Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
He must have an achilles heal or Denver wouldn't have been shopping him. I am so curious as to what it is. Also with a quarterback so great you would expect an uproar from the Denver fans but we heard not a peep. Very odd for such a supposed talent wouldn't you say?
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05-25-2009, 5:47 PM |
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good info in both posts, i didnt know he was that good in highschool.
"Here's a check for $10,000, Nagurski," G.A. Richards, owner of the Detroit Lions, once said. "Not for playing the Lions, because you belong to the Bears, but just to quit the game and get the hell out of the league. You are ruining my team."
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SBJay: Bearsfan1102:
First post
Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
Very much appreciated, but I disagree.
Was it silly for me to say that Michael Jordan would be the best player to ever pick up a basketball when he was a freshman at Carolina? 'Cause I said that.
Was it silly for me to say that John Elway would lead his team to more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history? 'Cause I said that too when Elway was a senior at Stanford.
Silly is as silly does, and I'm going with my eyes, ears, and instincts, not to mention my track record.
I know the goods when I see them and he's the best.
GO BEARS!!!!!!
Look, I can even come here and claim that i said in high school that Princess Diana was gonna die in a car accident. I can also claim that i said that Tom Brady was gonna win 3 SB with the Patriots, and that Peyton was gonna get 3 mvps.
I appreciate your optimism. And hoping for Cutler to accomplish everything you say in Chicago. But you're exagerating, and sound a bit more obsessed than a fan.
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Rings7: SBJay: Bearsfan1102:
First post
Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
Very much appreciated, but I disagree.
Was it silly for me to say that Michael Jordan would be the best player to ever pick up a basketball when he was a freshman at Carolina? 'Cause I said that.
Was it silly for me to say that John Elway would lead his team to more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history? 'Cause I said that too when Elway was a senior at Stanford.
Silly is as silly does, and I'm going with my eyes, ears, and instincts, not to mention my track record.
I know the goods when I see them and he's the best.
GO BEARS!!!!!!
Look, I can even come here and claim that i said in high school that Princess Diana was gonna die in a car accident. I can also claim that i said that Tom Brady was gonna win 3 SB with the Patriots, and that Peyton was gonna get 3 mvps.
I appreciate your optimism. And hoping for Cutler to accomplish everything you say in Chicago. But you're exagerating, and sound a bit more obsessed than a fan.
I call it like I see it.
And when I say that Cutler is better than either Elway or Farve, I meant a better arm, better legs, and better at running a team. Obviously I was not comparing Cutler now to Elway or Farve at their peak. What I am saying is that he has greater potential, and has already demonstrated a greater potential, than either Farve or Elway had by year 3.
GO BEARS!!!
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thechef: Bearsfan1102:
First post
Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
He must have an achilles heal or Denver wouldn't have been shopping him. I am so curious as to what it is. Also with a quarterback so great you would expect an uproar from the Denver fans but we heard not a peep. Very odd for such a supposed talent wouldn't you say?
Oh, Jay has (had) an Achilles Heel alright. It's name was Josh McDaniels. I do not see getting off a train about to wreck an Achilles Heel though.....I call it intelligent management of one's career. Also, if you read the Denver papers, you will see that Bowlen has already admitted to mental issues aka senility.
Leadership, or lack thereof, comes from the top. History is full of "greats" that went cuckoo at the end. Sad, but true.
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thechef:I bet your opinion of Cutler didn't go over too well in Denver when he was losing more games than winning.
So you just sign up today to TROLL our message boards? So to you it was all Cutler's fault when the Denver Broncos lost. Last time I checked, football is a team sport.
 "We need to find a way to make 1 + 1 = 3." --Lions head coach Jim Schwartz.
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SBJay: Rings7: SBJay: Bearsfan1102:
First post
Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
Very much appreciated, but I disagree.
Was it silly for me to say that Michael Jordan would be the best player to ever pick up a basketball when he was a freshman at Carolina? 'Cause I said that.
Was it silly for me to say that John Elway would lead his team to more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history? 'Cause I said that too when Elway was a senior at Stanford.
Silly is as silly does, and I'm going with my eyes, ears, and instincts, not to mention my track record.
I know the goods when I see them and he's the best.
GO BEARS!!!!!!
Look, I can even come here and claim that i said in high school that Princess Diana was gonna die in a car accident. I can also claim that i said that Tom Brady was gonna win 3 SB with the Patriots, and that Peyton was gonna get 3 mvps.
I appreciate your optimism. And hoping for Cutler to accomplish everything you say in Chicago. But you're exagerating, and sound a bit more obsessed than a fan.
I call it like I see it.
And when I say that Cutler is better than either Elway or Farve, I meant a better arm, better legs, and better at running a team. Obviously I was not comparing Cutler now to Elway or Farve at their peak. What I am saying is that he has greater potential, and has already demonstrated a greater potential, than either Farve or Elway had by year 3.
GO BEARS!!!
Well, that's something else. I do agree on that.
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SBJay:Okay....first meet me. (lol)
I'm a newbie here. But when it comes to Jay Cutler, I'm no newbie at all. I've followed every game he's ever played. I did the same with John Elway, including High School, since we are the same age and he played in the same district I attended.
I've commented here and there, and taken great offense at Bronco fans who try to pull the wool over Bear fans eyes regarding Cutler. Some of you may have read those threads. This is my first attempt at originating a thread here though. Please "bear" with me. ;-)
And now for Jay...
I gotta tell you guys, this has been some truly exciting days ....watching the city of Chicago embrace this young man, speculating this and that, learning this and that about him. It's been fun reading all of it. I've chuckled a lot.
One thing that really struck me though, especially after reading Ron Turner's interview today, was that none of you guys reeeeaaaally know Jay that well, except maybe through ESPN blowhards and media talking heads who wear more makeup than your wife does.
So I thought I'd be a little brave and try to introduce you guys to our new Franchise QB, Mr. Jay Cutler......through my eyes and experience anyway.
The first thing that will strike you about Jay Cutler is his amazing arm strength. When you see him gun the ball, you will be hard pressed to recall ANY pass moving that fast before....and this includes Mr. Elway's, of which I saw hundreds of them, ...live, up-close, and in person. Cutler most definitely has a stronger arm than Elway. There are freaks of nature out there who have stronger arms, (think Jamarcus Russell) but they can't use them to play the position. Cutler has an Elway, Marino, Bledsoe-like arm. A cannon mounted at the shoulder. He can throw the deep out with ease, and does so on a regular basis. He can throw across his body and off the wrong foot. He can throw laser shots with both feet airborne. I have seen him throw a 35-yard frozen rope when his body was completely horizontal, off the ground, and draped with a 325 lbs. lineman.
Jay Cutler has the strongest, most powerful FUNCTIONING arm in the NFL. Period.
The second thing you will realize once you see Cutler on the field is "Wow!!! This guy can RUN!!!!" Jay is a pocket passer with the speed of a scrambler, and the instincts of a FB. I've seen him run over off-balance DB's trying to tackle him in the open field and then get another 15 yards. I've seen him stiff arm LB's to the turf. He's fast and will not hesitate to take off and run for the first down himself. Faster than Elway was by far, since that seems to be the guy he will forever be compared to. Elway scrambled straight up and down. Cutler, thanks to his porous o-line at Vandy, runs with a forward lean like a RB and his head swiveled, using vision and following blocks. You really have to see it to appreciate it.
What people DON'T know about Jay is that he is very, very strong. We are not talking pumped up bicep, ripped pec strong like a LeBron James. We are talking house-like strong all over, ...from head to toe, more like a Carmello Anthony. You know the type, those guys who seem to have smooth, almost flabby tone to their muscles, but can lift a freaking house? Yeah....that strong. I've watched LB'ers get in Cutler's face after a busted play trying to taunt him. Jay shoved the LB lightly, once in the chest with his right hand. The LB flies backward about 2 yards, lands on his kazoo, and starts screaming for a ref (who was watching the whole thing). Jay just shakes his head and walks back to the huddle.
At the Scouting Combine before he was drafted, ...on a lark, Jay Cutler hit the 225-lbs bench press machine. He pumped out 30 reps. That made him the 4th stongest PERSON coming out of college that year. He now throws TD passes for the Chicago Bears.
Do NOT mess around with Jay Cutler. He may look like a baby face, but that's it. He's stone-cold once that helmet gets on. And it's a fair bet that this QB is the strongest man in the stadium on any given Sunday. Pat Bowlen messed with Jay. Josh McDaniels messed with Jay. Now Jay plays for the team he wanted to play for since he was a little boy. They lost. Jay won.
Jay is dedicated. Jay is not above telling other members of his offense to get their stuff up to snuff and how to do it. He will wear Bear WR's hands out during the off-season. He has been known to have WR's actually move in with him temporarily so that they could get on the same page as Jay. Jay has no problem creating urgency with slow learners at this. Jay runs a huddle, not a nursery school. He expects to score every time he is on the field, and expects all other members of the offense to assist him in this. It's non-negotiable for him. I've rarely seen such competitiveness and fire on the field. Think Elway and Farve.
Jay is mentally tough. He dropped 30 lbs. in his second season, his first as a full-time starter, and lost some zip on his passes. No one knew what was going on. Then he learned that he had diabetes. How did Jay respond>?
He was happy. Yup. Happy.
Happy to have diabetes? Get outta here. That's ridiculous.
Happy to find out what was causing him to drop weight. His smiling response to the press was, "Hey, now I know what's going on and I can work with it." People in Denver were shocked at his maturity and lack of self-victimization. He quickly regained his weight, his arm, and immediately threw for 4500 yards on a team with one of the worst defenses in modern football history. Then he set up a Diabetes Foundation for charity and donated boatloads of time and money to it. And never with a single photo-op of publicity. Not one. He would show up un-announced an un-scheduled, do his thing, and leave.
Jay Cutler is a winner. On the field and off the field where it really counts.
He brings a level of excitement to the game that only a few true superstars at the QB position have ever managed, since he can literally light up the scoreboard under any circumstance, at any time, from anywhere on the field.
He scares the living crap out of opposing defenses. He can do anything and they have no idea what he will do on any given play.
People LOVE to compare Jay Cutler to both Brett Farve and John Elway, both SB Champions and HOF's (future in Farve's case).
Is this fair?
Of course it is. Jay is that talented and that's who he reminds people of when they see him play. I have seen all three play, and have followed Elway's career about as close as it could be followed.
Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good.
To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
I said the same thing about Elway when he entered the NFL and people laughed at me then, only I said he's take his team to more SB's than any QB. And he did. Five of them. So I have no prob going out on a limb when I see the goods, and I SEE the goods.
So you may call me a homer. So be it. We'll see how that works out around mid-season when the Bears are 8-0.
Putting Jay Cutler on a team with a defense and a running game is like giving General George S. Patton night vision and cruise missiles.
It's really going to be unfair. For the rest of the NFL that is.....
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TheRefs_Were_PaidOff: thechef:I bet your opinion of Cutler didn't go over too well in Denver when he was losing more games than winning.
So you just sign up today to TROLL our message boards? So to you it was all Cutler's fault when the Denver Broncos lost. Last time I checked, football is a team sport.
Yep good point!
He also said he hasn't heard a peep out of Denver negative to the Cutler trade. Are you KIDDING ME? What do you live under a rock? They have been up and arms for months, and the fans are even more upset than the many many media reports, proven from various MSBs, etc.
Take a hike trollboy.
It's all about the ChicaGO Bears!
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SBJay: Bearsfan1102:
First post
Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
Very much appreciated, but I disagree.
Was it silly for me to say that Michael Jordan would be the best player to ever pick up a basketball when he was a freshman at Carolina? 'Cause I said that.
Was it silly for me to say that John Elway would lead his team to more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history? 'Cause I said that too when Elway was a senior at Stanford.
Silly is as silly does, and I'm going with my eyes, ears, and instincts, not to mention my track record.
I know the goods when I see them and he's the best.
GO BEARS!!!!!!
When u compare athletes to a different sport it is simply crazy like saying Tom Brady is the Dale Earnhardt Sr of the NFL or saying Albert Pujols is the Kobe Bryant in Major League Baseball. It is wrong to compare athletes to different sports.
Predicting Cutler to win at least 5 superbowls is gutsy but I'm going with 1 at a time not going to give a prediction because there is going to be alot of factors that will go into it.
Lets win 1 first
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SBJay:The first thing that will strike you about Jay Cutler is his amazing arm strength. When you see him gun the ball, you will be hard pressed to recall ANY pass moving that fast before....and this includes Mr. Elway's, of which I saw hundreds of them, ...live, up-close, and in person. Cutler most definitely has a stronger arm than Elway. There are freaks of nature out there who have stronger arms, (think Jamarcus Russell) but they can't use them to play the position. Cutler has an Elway, Marino, Bledsoe-like arm. A cannon mounted at the shoulder. He can throw the deep out with ease, and does so on a regular basis. He can throw across his body and off the wrong foot. He can throw laser shots with both feet airborne. I have seen him throw a 35-yard frozen rope when his body was completely horizontal, off the ground, and draped with a 325 lbs. lineman.
Jay Cutler has the strongest, most powerful FUNCTIONING arm in the NFL. Period.
The funny thing is there was a thread in the CBMB's last month on who's arm was stronger Cutler's or Grossman's. I had to laugh hard at that one for someone to think there was even a comparison when they're not even in the same category in terms of arm strength.
Official #95 member of the CBMB Jay Cutler Fan Club.
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SBJay:
Okay....first meet me. (lol)
I'm a newbie here. But when it comes to Jay Cutler, I'm no newbie at all. I've followed every game he's ever played. I did the same with John Elway, including High School, since we are the same age and he played in the same district I attended.
I've commented here and there, and taken great offense at Bronco fans who try to pull the wool over Bear fans eyes regarding Cutler. Some of you may have read those threads. This is my first attempt at originating a thread here though. Please "bear" with me. ;-)
And now for Jay...
I gotta tell you guys, this has been some truly exciting days ....watching the city of Chicago embrace this young man, speculating this and that, learning this and that about him. It's been fun reading all of it. I've chuckled a lot.
One thing that really struck me though, especially after reading Ron Turner's interview today, was that none of you guys reeeeaaaally know Jay that well, except maybe through ESPN blowhards and media talking heads who wear more makeup than your wife does.
So I thought I'd be a little brave and try to introduce you guys to our new Franchise QB, Mr. Jay Cutler......through my eyes and experience anyway.
The first thing that will strike you about Jay Cutler is his amazing arm strength. When you see him gun the ball, you will be hard pressed to recall ANY pass moving that fast before....and this includes Mr. Elway's, of which I saw hundreds of them, ...live, up-close, and in person. Cutler most definitely has a stronger arm than Elway. There are freaks of nature out there who have stronger arms, (think Jamarcus Russell) but they can't use them to play the position. Cutler has an Elway, Marino, Bledsoe-like arm. A cannon mounted at the shoulder. He can throw the deep out with ease, and does so on a regular basis. He can throw across his body and off the wrong foot. He can throw laser shots with both feet airborne. I have seen him throw a 35-yard frozen rope when his body was completely horizontal, off the ground, and draped with a 325 lbs. lineman.
Jay Cutler has the strongest, most powerful FUNCTIONING arm in the NFL. Period.
The second thing you will realize once you see Cutler on the field is "Wow!!! This guy can RUN!!!!" Jay is a pocket passer with the speed of a scrambler, and the instincts of a FB. I've seen him run over off-balance DB's trying to tackle him in the open field and then get another 15 yards. I've seen him stiff arm LB's to the turf. He's fast and will not hesitate to take off and run for the first down himself. Faster than Elway was by far, since that seems to be the guy he will forever be compared to. Elway scrambled straight up and down. Cutler, thanks to his porous o-line at Vandy, runs with a forward lean like a RB and his head swiveled, using vision and following blocks. You really have to see it to appreciate it.
What people DON'T know about Jay is that he is very, very strong. We are not talking pumped up bicep, ripped pec strong like a LeBron James. We are talking house-like strong all over, ...from head to toe, more like a Carmello Anthony. You know the type, those guys who seem to have smooth, almost flabby tone to their muscles, but can lift a freaking house? Yeah....that strong. I've watched LB'ers get in Cutler's face after a busted play trying to taunt him. Jay shoved the LB lightly, once in the chest with his right hand. The LB flies backward about 2 yards, lands on his kazoo, and starts screaming for a ref (who was watching the whole thing). Jay just shakes his head and walks back to the huddle.
At the Scouting Combine before he was drafted, ...on a lark, Jay Cutler hit the 225-lbs bench press machine. He pumped out 30 reps. That made him the 4th stongest PERSON coming out of college that year. He now throws TD passes for the Chicago Bears.
Do NOT mess around with Jay Cutler. He may look like a baby face, but that's it. He's stone-cold once that helmet gets on. And it's a fair bet that this QB is the strongest man in the stadium on any given Sunday. Pat Bowlen messed with Jay. Josh McDaniels messed with Jay. Now Jay plays for the team he wanted to play for since he was a little boy. They lost. Jay won.
Jay is dedicated. Jay is not above telling other members of his offense to get their stuff up to snuff and how to do it. He will wear Bear WR's hands out during the off-season. He has been known to have WR's actually move in with him temporarily so that they could get on the same page as Jay. Jay has no problem creating urgency with slow learners at this. Jay runs a huddle, not a nursery school. He expects to score every time he is on the field, and expects all other members of the offense to assist him in this. It's non-negotiable for him. I've rarely seen such competitiveness and fire on the field. Think Elway and Farve.
Jay is mentally tough. He dropped 30 lbs. in his second season, his first as a full-time starter, and lost some zip on his passes. No one knew what was going on. Then he learned that he had diabetes. How did Jay respond>?
He was happy. Yup. Happy.
Happy to have diabetes? Get outta here. That's ridiculous.
Happy to find out what was causing him to drop weight. His smiling response to the press was, "Hey, now I know what's going on and I can work with it." People in Denver were shocked at his maturity and lack of self-victimization. He quickly regained his weight, his arm, and immediately threw for 4500 yards on a team with one of the worst defenses in modern football history. Then he set up a Diabetes Foundation for charity and donated boatloads of time and money to it. And never with a single photo-op of publicity. Not one. He would show up un-announced an un-scheduled, do his thing, and leave.
Jay Cutler is a winner. On the field and off the field where it really counts.
He brings a level of excitement to the game that only a few true superstars at the QB position have ever managed, since he can literally light up the scoreboard under any circumstance, at any time, from anywhere on the field.
He scares the living crap out of opposing defenses. He can do anything and they have no idea what he will do on any given play.
People LOVE to compare Jay Cutler to both Brett Farve and John Elway, both SB Champions and HOF's (future in Farve's case).
Is this fair?
Of course it is. Jay is that talented and that's who he reminds people of when they see him play. I have seen all three play, and have followed Elway's career about as close as it could be followed.
Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good.
To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
I said the same thing about Elway when he entered the NFL and people laughed at me then, only I said he's take his team to more SB's than any QB. And he did. Five of them. So I have no prob going out on a limb when I see the goods, and I SEE the goods.
So you may call me a homer. So be it. We'll see how that works out around mid-season when the Bears are 8-0.
Putting Jay Cutler on a team with a defense and a running game is like giving General George S. Patton night vision and cruise missiles.
It's really going to be unfair. For the rest of the NFL that is.....
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GO BEARS!!!!
SBJay, thanks for your outstanding post, I appreciate it very much, and look foward to Jay leading the Bears to many victories!
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05-26-2009, 12:44 PM |
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Bearsfan1102: SBJay: Bearsfan1102:
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Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
Very much appreciated, but I disagree.
Was it silly for me to say that Michael Jordan would be the best player to ever pick up a basketball when he was a freshman at Carolina? 'Cause I said that.
Was it silly for me to say that John Elway would lead his team to more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history? 'Cause I said that too when Elway was a senior at Stanford.
Silly is as silly does, and I'm going with my eyes, ears, and instincts, not to mention my track record.
I know the goods when I see them and he's the best.
GO BEARS!!!!!!
When u compare athletes to a different sport it is simply crazy like saying Tom Brady is the Dale Earnhardt Sr of the NFL or saying Albert Pujols is the Kobe Bryant in Major League Baseball. It is wrong to compare athletes to different sports.
Predicting Cutler to win at least 5 superbowls is gutsy but I'm going with 1 at a time not going to give a prediction because there is going to be alot of factors that will go into it.
Lets win 1 first
Bearsfan1102;
With all due respect, and I mean that sincerely, I beg to differ a bit here. Professional writers use comparisons ALL the time to illustrate a point. Being that I have written professionally for a good number of years, I simply will not forego one of a writer's best tools at accomplishing this.
There is a point in a story, article, or printed piece where it is incumbent upon the reader to exercise comprehension skills. This would include context, comparisons for the sake of illustrating a point, etc., etc., etc. Judging by content alone of the responses to my piece here, I would say that 90%+ of my intended audience not only got the point, but was entertained and informed by the piece as well.
You are a fan of a city that produced one of the elite athletes of a century. Michael Jordan. Excellence in sports requires a mind-set that is very relative from athlete to athlete, ....regardless of the sport. I have full confidence that you easily grasp this.
The cream always rises to the top, regardless of which cow the milk came from.
There is nothing wrong with recognizing that the milk at Halas Hall finally has some cream in it.
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GO BEARS!!!!!!!!
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SBJay: thechef: Bearsfan1102:
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Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
He must have an achilles heal or Denver wouldn't have been shopping him. I am so curious as to what it is. Also with a quarterback so great you would expect an uproar from the Denver fans but we heard not a peep. Very odd for such a supposed talent wouldn't you say?
Oh, Jay has (had) an Achilles Heel alright. It's name was Josh McDaniels. I do not see getting off a train about to wreck an Achilles Heel though.....I call it intelligent management of one's career. Also, if you read the Denver papers, you will see that Bowlen has already admitted to mental issues aka senility.
Leadership, or lack thereof, comes from the top. History is full of "greats" that went cuckoo at the end. Sad, but true.
The achilles heel would be inefficiency in the redzone and interceptions. I'm as stoked as anyone and full of high hopes for Cutler, but these are areas where he must improve.
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everest: SBJay: thechef: Bearsfan1102:
First post
Jay Cutler is already better than John Elway OR Brett Farve. He's that good. To tell you the honest truth, he's the best QB I've ever seen play the game in the 40 years I've been watching it. And as a John Elway fan since he played HS, that's hard for me to say.....but it's the truth. He's better.
He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL.
Jay Cutler will win more Superbowls than any QB in NFL history by the time his career is over.
That is putting alot of pressure on Jay Cutler. I'm excited about him being on the Bears but saying he's better than Elway and Favre is a little extreme.
Saying Cutler is the Michael Jordan of the NFL that is really silly to even post that
Saying Cutler will win more Superbowls than any other QB in NFL history well I hope that does come true but I just want to win 1 than we can go for the 2nd and so on and by the way Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw are tied with 4 superbowl wins. Saying Cutler will win at least 5 is putting it outthere big time like I said as a Bears Fan I hope he does win 5 but I'm taking it 1 at a time
He must have an achilles heal or Denver wouldn't have been shopping him. I am so curious as to what it is. Also with a quarterback so great you would expect an uproar from the Denver fans but we heard not a peep. Very odd for such a supposed talent wouldn't you say?
Oh, Jay has (had) an Achilles Heel alright. It's name was Josh McDaniels. I do not see getting off a train about to wreck an Achilles Heel though.....I call it intelligent management of one's career. Also, if you read the Denver papers, you will see that Bowlen has already admitted to mental issues aka senility.
Leadership, or lack thereof, comes from the top. History is full of "greats" that went cuckoo at the end. Sad, but true.
The achilles heel would be inefficiency in the redzone and interceptions. I'm as stoked as anyone and full of high hopes for Cutler, but these are areas where he must improve.
Entirely correct Everest, and thanks for commenting.
The Red Zone is where most "gunslinger" QB's need to improve at the early stages of their career.
I also have full confidence that Jay, like all the other QB's he's been compared to, will correct this and improve on his Red Zone reads and throws.
BTW.....just as a trivia note:
There IS one thing that John Elway did in his 3rd year that Jay Cutler has never done. Jay Cutler has never lined up under guard at the line of scrimmage on a nationally televised game before.....lol!!!
Oppppth.......
I can still recall the look on Keith Bishop's face looking around after feeling some guy's hands on his behind.....lmao!!!
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GO BEARS!!!!!!
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