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mawzsr:

I was explaining why Connery doesnt live in the UK.
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No, the Romans didn't cross. I accept taxes as a valid reason of residence for Sean connery.
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bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick:
mawzsr:What has changed in 5,000 years? well im here...that's different. Oh and you too.
*everyone gets together and holds hands*
everybody love your neighbor and bring peace on earth, our precious mother la dee da
I think he means muslims...or perhaps he's referring to britian's awesome courage against natives who carry wooden spears. Or the fact that they hide from all the continental powers on their little island and whenever they are threatened god knocks out the spainish armada. We have the courage to never get attacked, lol.
Instead of making obscure historical references, would you like to have a try at telling me why the Brits (more specifically, the Scots, of which I'm one) are cowards?
That was me that called all of Europe cowards, don't matter the country....see both world wars....who did they call????? OK then.....they still haven't paid back billions of dollars we spent to bail their sorry a$$es out either almost 70 years later. Who will they call the next time???? Yep....exactly!!!!!!!
Oops. Looks like someone fell asleep in history class.
Call a Scot a coward to his face and you'll wake up broken and sorry, little man.
Fell asleep??? Nope, they never paid the money back....period. Come call me little man to my face then and see who stands last....lol. I can play your hypocritical games too son.
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lol, that model is Bearmick you best not be messin
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navy&orange: bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick:
mawzsr:What has changed in 5,000 years? well im here...that's different. Oh and you too.
*everyone gets together and holds hands*
everybody love your neighbor and bring peace on earth, our precious mother la dee da
I think he means muslims...or perhaps he's referring to britian's awesome courage against natives who carry wooden spears. Or the fact that they hide from all the continental powers on their little island and whenever they are threatened god knocks out the spainish armada. We have the courage to never get attacked, lol.
Instead of making obscure historical references, would you like to have a try at telling me why the Brits (more specifically, the Scots, of which I'm one) are cowards?
That was me that called all of Europe cowards, don't matter the country....see both world wars....who did they call????? OK then.....they still haven't paid back billions of dollars we spent to bail their sorry a$$es out either almost 70 years later. Who will they call the next time???? Yep....exactly!!!!!!!
Oops. Looks like someone fell asleep in history class.
Call a Scot a coward to his face and you'll wake up broken and sorry, little man.
Fell asleep??? Nope, they never paid the money back....period. Come call me little man to my face then and see who stands last....lol. I can play your hypocritical games too son.
I assure you I would happily call you little man to your face. Quite happily.
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you guys are totally not following the advice of what your quoting...LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR....OR DIE
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bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick:
mawzsr:What has changed in 5,000 years? well im here...that's different. Oh and you too.
*everyone gets together and holds hands*
everybody love your neighbor and bring peace on earth, our precious mother la dee da
I think he means muslims...or perhaps he's referring to britian's awesome courage against natives who carry wooden spears. Or the fact that they hide from all the continental powers on their little island and whenever they are threatened god knocks out the spainish armada. We have the courage to never get attacked, lol.
Instead of making obscure historical references, would you like to have a try at telling me why the Brits (more specifically, the Scots, of which I'm one) are cowards?
That was me that called all of Europe cowards, don't matter the country....see both world wars....who did they call????? OK then.....they still haven't paid back billions of dollars we spent to bail their sorry a$$es out either almost 70 years later. Who will they call the next time???? Yep....exactly!!!!!!!
Oops. Looks like someone fell asleep in history class.
Call a Scot a coward to his face and you'll wake up broken and sorry, little man.
Fell asleep??? Nope, they never paid the money back....period. Come call me little man to my face then and see who stands last....lol. I can play your hypocritical games too son.
I assure you I would happily call you little man to your face. Quite happily.
Come bring it then lol, you might be happy but you'd be on the ground in short order...you are not only a hypocrite, you're dilusional like wardi and IHTB...but hey, no sweat off my back. You keep being PC and I'll keep being and living in reality. Have a good night, I have to work tomorrow
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bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick:
mawzsr:What has changed in 5,000 years? well im here...that's different. Oh and you too.
*everyone gets together and holds hands*
everybody love your neighbor and bring peace on earth, our precious mother la dee da
I think he means muslims...or perhaps he's referring to britian's awesome courage against natives who carry wooden spears. Or the fact that they hide from all the continental powers on their little island and whenever they are threatened god knocks out the spainish armada. We have the courage to never get attacked, lol.
Instead of making obscure historical references, would you like to have a try at telling me why the Brits (more specifically, the Scots, of which I'm one) are cowards?
That was me that called all of Europe cowards, don't matter the country....see both world wars....who did they call????? OK then.....they still haven't paid back billions of dollars we spent to bail their sorry a$$es out either almost 70 years later. Who will they call the next time???? Yep....exactly!!!!!!!
Oops. Looks like someone fell asleep in history class.
Call a Scot a coward to his face and you'll wake up broken and sorry, little man.
Fell asleep??? Nope, they never paid the money back....period. Come call me little man to my face then and see who stands last....lol. I can play your hypocritical games too son.
I assure you I would happily call you little man to your face. Quite happily.
Why so truculent lately, Mick?
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Spartan: bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick:
mawzsr:What has changed in 5,000 years? well im here...that's different. Oh and you too.
*everyone gets together and holds hands*
everybody love your neighbor and bring peace on earth, our precious mother la dee da
I think he means muslims...or perhaps he's referring to britian's awesome courage against natives who carry wooden spears. Or the fact that they hide from all the continental powers on their little island and whenever they are threatened god knocks out the spainish armada. We have the courage to never get attacked, lol.
Instead of making obscure historical references, would you like to have a try at telling me why the Brits (more specifically, the Scots, of which I'm one) are cowards?
That was me that called all of Europe cowards, don't matter the country....see both world wars....who did they call????? OK then.....they still haven't paid back billions of dollars we spent to bail their sorry a$$es out either almost 70 years later. Who will they call the next time???? Yep....exactly!!!!!!!
Oops. Looks like someone fell asleep in history class.
Call a Scot a coward to his face and you'll wake up broken and sorry, little man.
Fell asleep??? Nope, they never paid the money back....period. Come call me little man to my face then and see who stands last....lol. I can play your hypocritical games too son.
I assure you I would happily call you little man to your face. Quite happily.
Why so truculent lately, Mick?
Just tired of getting called out by little internet tough guys.
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oh it's all in fun right it's not like were arguing about something important like horse breeding...
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bearmick: Spartan: bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick: navy&orange: bearmick:
mawzsr:What has changed in 5,000 years? well im here...that's different. Oh and you too.
*everyone gets together and holds hands*
everybody love your neighbor and bring peace on earth, our precious mother la dee da
I think he means muslims...or perhaps he's referring to britian's awesome courage against natives who carry wooden spears. Or the fact that they hide from all the continental powers on their little island and whenever they are threatened god knocks out the spainish armada. We have the courage to never get attacked, lol.
Instead of making obscure historical references, would you like to have a try at telling me why the Brits (more specifically, the Scots, of which I'm one) are cowards?
That was me that called all of Europe cowards, don't matter the country....see both world wars....who did they call????? OK then.....they still haven't paid back billions of dollars we spent to bail their sorry a$$es out either almost 70 years later. Who will they call the next time???? Yep....exactly!!!!!!!
Oops. Looks like someone fell asleep in history class.
Call a Scot a coward to his face and you'll wake up broken and sorry, little man.
Fell asleep??? Nope, they never paid the money back....period. Come call me little man to my face then and see who stands last....lol. I can play your hypocritical games too son.
I assure you I would happily call you little man to your face. Quite happily.
Why so truculent lately, Mick?
Just tired of getting called out by little internet tough guys.
Ignore them. Anyone can be a tough guy in cyberspace.
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don't let it get to you Bearmick. Your views make this board more interesting.
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calabis: mawzsr:Islam is a very violent religion historically and i trust it always
will be. Imperialism has nothing to do with it, don't waste your
breath. Im talking straight up violence, join or die is the motto of
Islam. The extermination of Native Americans was the death of a people, not as sad as the
death of an idea.
Native Americans can be learned from, they can be proud and recreated like the jewish people. Zoroastrianism is dead, always will be; Islam was the murderer.
Yeah because Christianity has never committed any violence ![surprise [*sur*]](/emoticons/emotion-3.gif) watch out for the American white male ![big Smile [*big*]](/emoticons/emotion-2.gif) lol
Christianity isn't a violent religion historically...
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mawzsr: calabis: mawzsr:Islam is a very violent religion historically and i trust it always will be. Imperialism has nothing to do with it, don't waste your breath. Im talking straight up violence, join or die is the motto of Islam. The extermination of Native Americans was the death of a people, not as sad as the death of an idea.
Native Americans can be learned from, they can be proud and recreated like the jewish people. Zoroastrianism is dead, always will be; Islam was the murderer.
Yeah because Christianity has never committed any violence ![surprise [*sur*]](/emoticons/emotion-3.gif) watch out for the American white male ![big Smile [*big*]](/emoticons/emotion-2.gif) lol
Christianity isn't a violent religion historically...
Yeah ok....
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mawzsr: calabis: mawzsr:Islam is a very violent religion historically and i trust it always will be. Imperialism has nothing to do with it, don't waste your breath. Im talking straight up violence, join or die is the motto of Islam. The extermination of Native Americans was the death of a people, not as sad as the death of an idea.
Native Americans can be learned from, they can be proud and recreated like the jewish people. Zoroastrianism is dead, always will be; Islam was the murderer.
Yeah because Christianity has never committed any violence ![surprise [*sur*]](/emoticons/emotion-3.gif) watch out for the American white male ![big Smile [*big*]](/emoticons/emotion-2.gif) lol
Christianity isn't a violent religion historically...
Christian Violence in History
The horrible truth is that, numerically and statistically speaking, Christian Civilization is the bloodiest and most violent of all civilizations in all of history, and is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths. Even so, Muslims will never associate this violence and blood bath with the teachings of Jesus (peace be on him).
| Saint Augustine’s cognite intrare (“lead them in”—i.e. “force them to convert”). In fact the Qur’an says the exact opposite: There is no compulsion in religion ( 2:256 ). Augustine’s frightening idea that all must be compelled to “conform” to the “true Christian faith” has unleashed centuries of unparalleled bloodshed. Indeed, Christians have suffered more under the rule of Christian civilization than under pre- Christian Roman rule or any other rule in history. |
Millions were tortured and slaughtered in the name of Christianity during the periods of the Arian, Donatist and Albigensian heresies |
| The Crusades |
The European armies were saying, as they slaughtered both Christian and Muslim Arabs: “Kill them all, God will know his own.” |
| Europe's Reformation and Counter Reformation Era |
Two thirds of the Christian population of Europe was slaughtered by Christians |
| The African slave trade |
Claimed the lives of 10 million |
| The Colonial Conquests |
Estimates for the number of Native Americans slaughtered by the Europeans in North, Central and South America run as high as 20 million within three generations. |
| The 20 th century's Western Civilization took warfare to new extremes |
A conservative estimate puts the total number of brutal deaths in the 20 th century at more than 250 million. Of these, Muslims are responsible for less than 10 million deaths. Christians, or those coming from Christian backgrounds account for more than 200 million of these! The greatest death totals come from World War I (about 20 million, at least 90 % of which were inflicted by “Christians”) and World War II ( 90 million, at least 50% of which were inflicted by “Christians,” the majority of the rest occurring in the Far East). Given this grim history, it appears that we Europeans must all come to grips with the fact that Islamic civilization has actually been incomparably less brutal than Christian civilization. Did the Holocaust of over 6 million Jews occur out of the background of a Muslim Civilization? |
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Western and/or Christian powers have been responsible for at least twenty times more deaths than have Muslim powers. In this most brutal of centuries, we created incomparably more civilian casualties than have Muslims in the whole of Islamic history. |
| In the 20th century, Rawanda, 1994 |
Witness the slaughter of 900,000 Rwandans in 1994 in a population that was over 90 % Christian |
| 1992-1995 Bosnia |
The genocide of over 300,000 Muslims and systematic rape of over 100,000 Muslim women by Christian Serbs |
| Western popular culture |
It should also be mentioned that although Islam has the concept of legitimate war in self-defense (as does Christianity, and even Buddhism), nowhere in Islamic culture (or in other cultures that survive today) is there latent the idealization, and perhaps idolization, of violence that exists in Western Culture. Westerners think of themselves as peaceful, but in fact the gentleness and sublimity of the New Testament, and the peace-loving nature of the principles of democracy, are scarcely reflected in Western popular culture. Rather, the entire inclination of popular culture— Hollywood movies, Western television, video games, popular music and sports entertainment—is to glorify and inculcate violence. Accordingly, the relative rates of murder (especially random and serial murder) are higher in the Western World (particularly in the U.S., but even in Europe, taken as a whole) than they are in the Islamic world in counties that are not suffering civil wars, and this true despite the much greater wealth of the West. |
1. We go out and hit people in the mouth. 2. We are Not a charity, we cannot give them the game.-Mike Singletary 10/26/2008 -Member of the Caleb Hanie Fan Club -Ignorance can be fixed with a book, Stupidity needs a shotgun and a shovel.
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Every one of those wars is a socio-economic war with cultural over tones not religon. All of those wars are inevitable regardless of Jesus's teachings and you source is very biased to prove a point. Show how many wars occurred in Roman times and you'll see it got much better with the introduction of Christianity. Therefore Christianity reduced violence and can be named a rather nonviolent religion. Islam however created war purely on it's creation so in turn it is a violent religion, historically.
I can run through all your examples if you like but Arabs were never warlike with other cultures except for smal tribal wars before Islam. Westerners were freaking brutal.
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Did you seriously just claim WW1 was fought by Christians so it muct be violent... That was an economic war that had nothing to do with Christianities teachings. That's like blaming the civil war on Christians. The crusade have religious undertones but they were not fought over religion nor was Rwanda. That's irresponsible to make such a claim.
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navy&orange: bearmick: mawzsr:What has changed in 5,000 years? well im here...that's different. Oh and you too.
*everyone gets together and holds hands*
everybody love your neighbor and bring peace on earth, our precious mother la dee da
I think he means muslims...or perhaps he's referring to britian's awesome courage against natives who carry wooden spears. Or the fact that they hide from all the continental powers on their little island and whenever they are threatened god knocks out the spainish armada. We have the courage to never get attacked, lol.
Instead of making obscure historical references, would you like to have a try at telling me why the Brits (more specifically, the Scots, of which I'm one) are cowards?
That was me that called all of Europe cowards, don't matter the country....see both world wars....who did they call????? OK then.....they still haven't paid back billions of dollars we spent to bail their sorry a$$es out either almost 70 years later. Who will they call the next time???? Yep....exactly!!!!!!!
Well we did just do our part in tanking a good chunk of the economy over there, I would say that makes us even. Oh, and there's a difference between censoring yourself in worry over upsetting the boat by not being PC (obviously bad), and being an insufferable ignorant horses...behind. I'm sure shouting at the top of your lungs that you are the shinning beacon of honor and bravery rising above the leprous grasping hands of the emasculated, cowardly, socialist Europeans, makes you feel like a real big man, but really you just look like a fool.
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What society doesn't generally hate homosexuals?
or abortions
both those things make populations less viable and generally made countries have less man power to power the economy and the military machine
Most Christians are pro-choice and are fine with homosexuals so I'm not sure where you are coming from. It's a culture shock thing not a religious one.
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Spin:
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/christian/blfaq_viol_early.htm
christianity has little violence early in it's history
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/christian/blfaq_viol_crusades.htm
The crusades were not religously inspired at all i don't think any proper historian makes the claim any more. It was a political desicion to outsource war
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/christian/blfaq_viol_inquisition.htm
the inquisition existed on a political bases to put down unrest and inspire the populace and leaders.
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/christian/blfaq_viol_reformation.htm
30 year war was a German princes vs. holy roman emperor battle...
http://atheism.about.com/od/christianityviolence/a/witches.htm
no such things as witches
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/christian/blfaq_viol_holocaust.htm
holocaust was not religiously inspired c'mon that's a huge stretch
then ya can make the argument of Christianity and abortion, homosexuals
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mawzsr:What society doesn't generally hate homosexuals?
or abortions
both those things make populations less viable and generally made countries have less man power to power the economy and the military machine
Most Christians are pro-choice and are fine with homosexuals so I'm not sure where you are coming from. It's a culture shock thing not a religious one.
You must know different Christians than I do.
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mawzsr: calabis: mawzsr:Islam is a very violent religion historically and i trust it always will be. Imperialism has nothing to do with it, don't waste your breath. Im talking straight up violence, join or die is the motto of Islam. The extermination of Native Americans was the death of a people, not as sad as the death of an idea.
Native Americans can be learned from, they can be proud and recreated like the jewish people. Zoroastrianism is dead, always will be; Islam was the murderer.
Yeah because Christianity has never committed any violence ![surprise [*sur*]](/emoticons/emotion-3.gif) watch out for the American white male ![big Smile [*big*]](/emoticons/emotion-2.gif) lol
Christianity isn't a violent religion historically...
You must have a different Bible than I do. Not to mention the Crusades.
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