Mozart1220:

Funny thing is about the NFL,  they don't count championships in the standings, and "almost beat" still means LOST. 

Thisa post should cause you to think about REAL football, not whether or not the Packers won on Madden 2007.

The Packers suck, and they will until Favre retires and they can rebuild with a new QB.

26-0  <---- talk is cheap,  this on the other hand is the cold hard facts.

Repeat

Resweep

Cheers.

stevenWi:

Mozart1220:

Funny thing is about the NFL,  they don't count championships in the standings, and "almost beat" still means LOST. 

Thisa post should cause you to think about REAL football, not whether or not the Packers won on Madden 2007.

The Packers suck, and they will until Favre retires and they can rebuild with a new QB.

In your haste to state the obvious(the Packers suck this year) you missed the point. More than likely you didn't like what you read when faced with the facts. The point was that in spite of their youth and inexperience, the Packers have been in a position to win in all but two games this year. That's much better than what the early season prognosticators were saying.

stevenWi:

wisco:

MikePhipps:

IHATETHEBEARS:

I'm now believeing that Favre will be the Packers quarterback in 2007 also.

 

Especially if he doesn't reach his precious goal of Marino's TD record this season.  He'll be back to hold down the Packers for yet another year.

 

We can only hope.  The only bad thing being that we would be getting another year of Favre man crush posts from stevenWi

I see you're fighting your inner demons again Wisco. Envisioning man crushes, and on a football forum no less. I'd call that progress and I bet your shrink would too. Perhaps we could get back to football. The Pack is 2-4, but those losses are to teams with a combined record of 19-6 and the Packers were in a position to win 2 of those 4 losses. Basically we're beating the teams we should beat, losing bad to two of the 3 best teams(arguably) in the NFC(Bears,Saints,Eagles) and almost beating the Rams. The 2 wins have come on the road.That's very respectable for the youngest team in the NFL led by a new, rookie Head coach. When you consider the fact that the Pack has had virtually no running game until their win @ Miami, It's safe to assume that they're led by a he11 of a QB. Note to Wisco- this post should cause you to think of football, not whether or not you've Tivo-d S e x and the City.

Fighting what demons?  I hope Favre sticks around for 10 more years.  The Bears are not through with him yet.  There is no fear from Lovie with this current Packer bunch..... including Favre.  Lovie owns Favre.  How has he done the last 3 times they have played?  Also, I don't see a shink nor own Tivo. 

Stevo, the Packers have beaten two teams that have 1 win each.  Congrat's, apparently those two wins and your Packer Report have you optimistic about the future.   I see your new excuse for GB is "youngest team in the NFL".   Listening to the media around here too much Stevo?  That is meaningless if your young players are no good.  Also like how you see the 2 wins on the road as being respectable... how about losing all your games at home, how "respectable" is that?

Welcome to the thread dedicated to Packer fans like yourself who like to live in the past and spout out meaningless statistics (like the Packers have 2 wins on the road,  "almost" beat this team, etc).  It is a reality stop.  The standings do not lie.  It is like the scoreboard, can not be changed.  Read it and enjoy it.  Cheers.

26-0  

Repeat

Expected Resweep

Cheers.

wisco:

stevenWi:

wisco:

MikePhipps:

IHATETHEBEARS:

I'm now believeing that Favre will be the Packers quarterback in 2007 also.

 

Especially if he doesn't reach his precious goal of Marino's TD record this season.  He'll be back to hold down the Packers for yet another year.

 

We can only hope.  The only bad thing being that we would be getting another year of Favre man crush posts from stevenWi

I see you're fighting your inner demons again Wisco. Envisioning man crushes, and on a football forum no less. I'd call that progress and I bet your shrink would too. Perhaps we could get back to football. The Pack is 2-4, but those losses are to teams with a combined record of 19-6 and the Packers were in a position to win 2 of those 4 losses. Basically we're beating the teams we should beat, losing bad to two of the 3 best teams(arguably) in the NFC(Bears,Saints,Eagles) and almost beating the Rams. The 2 wins have come on the road.That's very respectable for the youngest team in the NFL led by a new, rookie Head coach. When you consider the fact that the Pack has had virtually no running game until their win @ Miami, It's safe to assume that they're led by a he11 of a QB. Note to Wisco- this post should cause you to think of football, not whether or not you've Tivo-d S e x and the City.

Fighting what demons?  I hope Favre sticks around for 10 more years.  The Bears are not through with him yet.  There is no fear from Lovie with this current Packer bunch..... including Favre.  Lovie owns Favre.  How has he done the last 3 times they have played?  Also, I don't see a shink nor own Tivo. 

Stevo, the Packers have beaten two teams that have 1 win each.  Congrat's, apparently those two wins and your Packer Report have you optimistic about the future.   I see your new excuse for GB is "youngest team in the NFL".   Listening to the media around here too much Stevo?  That is meaningless if your young players are no good.  Also like how you see the 2 wins on the road as being respectable... how about losing all your games at home, how "respectable" is that?

Welcome to the thread dedicated to Packer fans like yourself who like to live in the past and spout out meaningless statistics (like the Packers have 2 wins on the road,  "almost" beat this team, etc).  It is a reality stop.  The standings do not lie.  It is like the scoreboard, can not be changed.  Read it and enjoy it.  Cheers.

NFC North
Team	W	L	T	PCT	PF	PA	Home	Road	AFC	NFC	DIV	Streak
Chicago	6	0	0	1.000	180	59	3-0	3-0	1-0	5-0	3-0	Won 6
Minnesota	4	2	0	.667	120	95	2-1	2-1	0-1	4-1	1-1	Won 2
Green Bay	2	4	0	.333	121	162	0-3	2-1	1-0	1-4	1-1	Won 1
Detroit	1	6	0	.143	132	189	1-2	0-4	1-1	0-5	0-3	Lost 1

26-0  

Repeat

Expected Resweep

Cheers.

Time to update. 

Packers beat another team with one big win this year.  If they beat Buffalo and our buddy Jauronstedt they could actually be .500.  If that happens I fully expect some of the trolls to reappear on this message board. 

Vikings looked horrible last night.  Brad Johnson looks lost and Bollinger as their backup?? Even this Badger fan could hardly watch last night.

The Lions, well, they are still the Lions.

Is there any doubt of a repeat?

Yes, we expect the resweep

26-0

Joey Harrington coming to town.... Cheers

There is little doubt, no.

Can a 6-0 team miss the playoffs? Vikings fans know the answer to that one. But can the same fate befell a 7-0 team?

No.

IHATETHEBEARS:

There is little doubt, no.

Can a 6-0 team miss the playoffs? Vikings fans know the answer to that one. But can the same fate befell a 7-0 team?

No.

The Bears are not the Vikings.   There are only two teams in this division who have been to mountain and know how to get there and win.  This is one thing I am sure we both can agree on.

If the Bears can get homefield throughout they have an excellent chance.  I think 5-6 wins the rest of the way will get it done.  Very doable.

wisco:

IHATETHEBEARS:

There is little doubt, no.

Can a 6-0 team miss the playoffs? Vikings fans know the answer to that one. But can the same fate befell a 7-0 team?

No.

The Bears are not the Vikings.   There are only two teams in this division who have been to mountain and know how to get there and win.  This is one thing I am sure we both can agree on.

If the Bears can get homefield throughout they have an excellent chance.  I think 5-6 wins the rest of the way will get it done.  Very doable.

You're probably right. I'm leaing towards the Giants and Bears as the two best teams in the NFC. I'm just not convinced that the Saints are as good as their record indicates. I feel the same about Atlanta. Although I believe Atlanta is probably the third best team. Seattle just looks flat. The Eagles (as I surmised last week) are done. Stick a fork in them. No one else even compares, in my opinion.

If the Gaints beat the Bears, they will most likely be 7-2, and one game behind. They'll be chasing them the rest of the season, knowing that they hold the tiebreaker if they can catch them. If the Bears win... homefield all the way.

IHATETHEBEARS:

wisco:

IHATETHEBEARS:

There is little doubt, no.

Can a 6-0 team miss the playoffs? Vikings fans know the answer to that one. But can the same fate befell a 7-0 team?

No.

The Bears are not the Vikings.   There are only two teams in this division who have been to mountain and know how to get there and win.  This is one thing I am sure we both can agree on.

If the Bears can get homefield throughout they have an excellent chance.  I think 5-6 wins the rest of the way will get it done.  Very doable.

You're probably right. I'm leaing towards the Giants and Bears as the two best teams in the NFC. I'm just not convinced that the Saints are as good as their record indicates. I feel the same about Atlanta. Although I believe Atlanta is probably the third best team. Seattle just looks flat. The Eagles (as I surmised last week) are done. Stick a fork in them. No one else even compares, in my opinion.

If the Gaints beat the Bears, they will most likely be 7-2, and one game behind. They'll be chasing them the rest of the season, knowing that they hold the tiebreaker if they can catch them. If the Bears win... homefield all the way.

Teams from the NFC East are of concern.  They all are capable of coming to Chicago in Jan and win- except Washington.  New Orleans or Atlanta are good teams but I do not think they would fare well on the road in Jan.   I actually think Carolina is the team of concern in the South.  Seattle may just finish like recent teams who have lost SB and miss the playoffs the following year.  The Rams are a better team than Seattle right now and only one team from the West will get in.

I agree the Giants game is key.  If the Bears win this week against the Dolphins and next week against the Giants they will be in good shape.   Time will tell.... yeah, that Giants game is going to be tough.  Cheers.

I am a little torn this week... I have a bet with a co-worker who claimed the NFC North to be the worst division in the NFL.  He is from the East coast and I claimed the AFC East to be the worst.  So we have bet on who comes out ahead (head to head) this year in the divisions since they play each other.  Right now we are tied.    Which brings me to my dilema....

Bears vs Miami... well I cheer for the Bears of course.

Buffalo vs Packers... oh boy.  I do not want to cheer for the Packers.  Ever.  Somebody please give me reasons why I should cheer for Buffalo and Richard Jauronstedt.... it is tough. 

Oh yeah forgot (see below)

26-0

Sweep

Expected ReSweep

Repeat

Cheers.

You placed a bet. So it's all about the money. Which is more important to you - the money, or  Packer win? Which would you rather have?

If I were you, I'd root for the Packers. What does it hurt? They're no threat in the standings to the Bears.

IHATETHEBEARS:

You placed a bet. So it's all about the money. Which is more important to you - the money, or  Packer win? Which would you rather have?

If I were you, I'd root for the Packers. What does it hurt? They're no threat in the standings to the Bears.

It is not all about the money.  It is about pride and being right.  My co-worker gives the NFC North no respect.   Therefore, after further review, I will (gulp) cheer for the Packers.   With  Bear and Packer wins I will have a little cushion and will not be faced with this dilemma again.   Cheers.

stevenWi:

Bears will have no problems with any team from the East. There is only one team that should concern them. Atlanta. If Vick continues to play with both his feet and his arm, no team is safe. You simply cannot scheme a defense to stop him.He may fold when facing a D as talented as Chicago, but by then he will have had about 10 games under his belt running their offense. He's beginning to show some accuracy and his arm strength is above average. Along with his feet, that's a frightening combination.

The Bears have never lost to Vick.  I believe they are 3-0 against him.  Bears have speed at two linebacker positions that Vick has yet been able to beat.  Last year in December Vick was a non factor in the game.  It was cold and he looked like he did not want to be there.  Urlacher spied him all night and Vick wanted no part of it.

I am concerned more with the Giants.  However the loss of Arrington is huge.  We will find out in a couple of weeks.  That game is going to be a tough one for the Bears and a big test for Rex Grossman.  He will need to play well, on the road on national tv, for the Bears to come out on top.

wisco:

IHATETHEBEARS:

You placed a bet. So it's all about the money. Which is more important to you - the money, or  Packer win? Which would you rather have?

If I were you, I'd root for the Packers. What does it hurt? They're no threat in the standings to the Bears.

It is not all about the money.  It is about pride and being right.  My co-worker gives the NFC North no respect.   Therefore, after further review, I will (gulp) cheer for the Packers.   With  Bear and Packer wins I will have a little cushion and will not be faced with this dilemma again.   Cheers.

A-ha! A closet fan! We should get together on Sunday.

wisco:

stevenWi:

Bears will have no problems with any team from the East. There is only one team that should concern them. Atlanta. If Vick continues to play with both his feet and his arm, no team is safe. You simply cannot scheme a defense to stop him.He may fold when facing a D as talented as Chicago, but by then he will have had about 10 games under his belt running their offense. He's beginning to show some accuracy and his arm strength is above average. Along with his feet, that's a frightening combination.

The Bears have never lost to Vick.  I believe they are 3-0 against him.  Bears have speed at two linebacker positions that Vick has yet been able to beat.  Last year in December Vick was a non factor in the game.  It was cold and he looked like he did not want to be there.  Urlacher spied him all night and Vick wanted no part of it.

I am concerned more with the Giants.  However the loss of Arrington is huge.  We will find out in a couple of weeks.  That game is going to be a tough one for the Bears and a big test for Rex Grossman.  He will need to play well, on the road on national tv, for the Bears to come out on top.