dbears54:Looks like "terrible teddy's" lastest draft continue his "streak" of bad picks and no probolwers.. what JOY!! Rookies' impact minimal so far Only fourth-round pick Sitton has shot at starting job Jordy Nelson is the No. 5 receiver. Brian Brohm is scuffling to hold on to the No. 2 quarterback job.Pat Lee, Jermichael Finley and Jeremy Thompson are spending most of their time with the second and third units.Two seasons ago, five Green Bay Packers rookies started at least 10 games each for first-year coach Mike McCarthy. With two weeks until this year’s 53-man cutdown, fourth-round draft pick Josh Sitton is the only member of the 2008 draft class with any sort of shot at becoming a starter, barring injury.Should the Packers be concerned their 2008 draft class won’t do much to help a team that was a field goal away from the Super Bowl seven months ago?Or should they view the mountain the rookies are climbing towards playing time as a sign the roster is strong?The Packers strongly would argue the latter, even if they would have preferred someone such as Nelson or Lee to mount more of a challenge to the veterans in training camp. That only one starting job — right guard, where Sitton will make his second straight start in Saturday night’s preseason game at San Francisco — truly is up for grabs is another sign the roster is improved at the top.Over the past three years, only six of General Manager Ted Thompson’s 34 draft picks have failed to make the roster. If cuts came down today, only one of this year’s nine picks (seventh-round receiver Brett Swain) would be certain to get the ax.Five of the top six picks — Nelson, Brohm, Lee, Finley and Sitton — have made the team. Jeremy Thompson, the fourth-round end, remains a projection player but almost certainly will stick based on potential, while fifth-round tackle Breno Giacomini and seventh-round quarterback Matt Flynn have shown improvement recently and will merit strong consideration.Going eight deep in this year’s class would put the squeeze on, among others, some past Thompson picks: offensive linemen Junius Coston and Tony Moll, linebackers Abdul Hodge and Desmond Bishop, safety Tyrone Culver and running back DeShawn Wynn.“I think every year you make some pretty tough calls,” Thompson said this week. “I think this year there will be more of them, and I think that’s natural as you try to grow your core.”It’s also natural to wonder whether anyone in this year’s class will play a prominent role in September if Sitton doesn’t lock down a starting job. Second round 36. Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas StateGeneral Manager Ted Thompson said this week coaches would find ways to get his top draft pick on the field.But Nelson is finding his way slowly, as most young receivers do, and hasn’t jumped out in training camp like then-rookie James Jones did last summer. At this point, Nelson is in essence No. 5 on the depth chart, though the Packers utilize different combinations of receivers depending on the package.In his preseason debut on Monday night against Cincinnati, Nelson played the most plays of any receiver but only had two catches — a 22-yarder from fellow rookie Brian Brohm with the Bengals playing to prevent the big play in the closing seconds of the first half, and a 13-yarder from Brohm on a crossing route early in the third quarter.“He’s very, very coachable and understands what you’re trying to tell him and what he needs to work on,” receivers coach Jimmy Robinson said. “I’m not going to be real specific about that except to say that there was progress (on Monday), because any time a young guy plays in a game like that, his first (NFL) preseason game of his life, you don’t expect perfection.”With starter Greg Jennings (knee) sidelined indefinitely and No. 4 receiver Ruvell Martin (jaw contusion, mild concussion) perhaps sitting out tonight as well, Nelson should have plenty of opportunities to show his progress with the starting offense.56. Brian Brohm, QB, LouisvilleCoach Mike McCarthy raved several times this offseason that Brohm picked up the offense more quickly than any quarterback he’s coached. Through the first week of training camp, Brohm had a team-best 63.1 completion percentage in team (11-on-11 drills). Though he continued to hold the ball too long at times, he appeared to be at his best in no-huddle and 2-minute situations.But Brohm’s performance has slipped the past week-and-a-half. His completion percentage in practice (48.3) is way down, and his 8-for-17 showing against the Bengals’ second string — including an interception on his first play — helped open the door for improving seventh-round draft pick Matt Flynn to make an unexpected push for the No. 2 job.One factor Brohm has going in his favor is experience, albeit at the college level. He started 33 games and threw for 10,775 yards and 71 touchdowns, compared to 12, 3,096 and 30 for Flynn.“He’s got a good grasp of the system,” offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said of Brohm. “There’s 11 moving pieces of an offensive unit, and for where he’s at in the stage of his career, I think he has a pretty good grasp of where the guys have to go.”He’ll get another chance to prove it tonight, most likely beginning late in the second quarter or early in the third, and he remains the favorite for the backup gig. If Flynn outplays him again, though, Brohm might begin losing practice and game reps to his fellow rookie in the coming weeks.60. Pat Lee, CB, AuburnTramon Williams, Will Blackmon and Jarrett Bush have gotten a look in training camp as the No. 3 cornerback behind veteran starters Al Harris and Charles Woodson, with Williams the clear favorite.Lee has kept a lower profile. Though he’s shown noticeable improvement and more confidence since a rough first five days of camp, he at best looks to be the No. 5 cornerback and will have to earn his way onto the 45-man game day roster on special teams.“He’s just got to go out and do it,” defensive nickel package/cornerbacks coach Lionel Washington said. “That’s the thing with young kids — you’ve got to go out and just play. You can’t worry about being a young kid or about a rookie. With ‘P-Lee,’ he’s a smart kid, he works hard, and he’s just got to get in the mix and say, ‘I’m competing for a job.’”Washington has praised Lee’s football smarts throughout the offseason — which is notable, since Lee’s low Wonderlic score (10) had to be considered a red flag. But in a unit Washington acknowledged is deeper than a year ago, Lee has a long road ahead to get on the field defensively. Third round 91. Jermichael Finley, TE, TexasWith Tory Humphrey battling injuries again and three untested rookies behind him, the No. 2 tight end job is up for grabs.That would seem to give Finley a good chance to contribute immediately, but it remains to be seen whether he’ll block and settle well enough into a scheme that demands extensive presnap movement and flexibility from tight ends to justify playing early in his rookie season.“That’s a position that you might think would be easy to break into,” Philbin said, “but in our system, it takes a little bit of gymnastics to move around with all the things we ask of them. So, I think he’s making some good progress. He’s a nice target with real good hands. We’re anxious to see him continue.”Finley, who had two catches for 17 yards on Monday, gets off the line of scrimmage well and has flashed those hands on several occasions. It’s everything else that gives the sense that, at 21 and with only two seasons of college football behind him, Finley might not be ready to contribute immediately. However, it should be noted McCarthy and his staff have shown a willingness to throw young players into the mix, and unless Humphrey gets and stays healthy, they may have no choice but to do the same with Finley unless they pluck someone else off waivers after the final cutdown on Aug. 30. Fourth round 102. Jeremy Thompson, DE, Wake ForestOf the top six draft picks, Thompson has been the least visible through camp.Coaches have worked Thompson mostly at right end with the third unit. He hasn’t had the sort of disastrous camp it takes for a fourth-round draft pick to play his way off the roster (see: Cory Rodgers, 2006). But with Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Michael Montgomery and Jason Hunter in front of him for playing time as backup ends, Thompson would need to emerge on special teams — something he’s yet to do — to have any chance to be active on Sundays, barring injuries.Asked whether he’s seen the pass-rushing acumen that made Ted Thompson trade up to select Jeremy Thompson in April, defensive ends coach Carl Hairston said, “He’s got it. He’s got a very explosive first step. He’s just got to learn to counter off those steps. He’s got the upfield move, and he’s got to learn how to move, to work inside and to continue to work outside.”Like Montgomery, Thompson has rare arm length — 35¾ inches on his 6-foot-4, 270-pound frame — that can give him an advantage once he diversifies his pass-rushing attack. The rookie also must become more explosive against the run.135. Josh Sitton, G, Central FloridaThe only rookie who has much chance for cracking the lineup in Week 1, Sitton will make his second start at right guard Saturday night in spite of an up-and-down preseason debut.“He certainly held his own,” Philbin said. “He’s an aware player overall. (Cincinnati) ran at us a good amount of games inside, twisting and so forth. He seems to have a pretty good feel for that. And he played a healthy amount of snaps. Sometimes, you’re concerned about a guy’s conditioning — can he hang in there and play? I think he played 45 or so plays. So, for his first time out, not so bad.”Coaches love Sitton’s attitude, and they’re giving an opportunity to he and Jason Spitz to bring stability to a position that’s changed hands so many times since Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera departed as free agents after the 2004 season. With the more experienced Daryn Colledge working in at right guard in practice, however, coaches wouldn’t hesitate to make a change if Sitton doesn’t continue to progress through the rest of the preseason. Fifth round 150. Breno Giacomini, T, LouisvilleGiacomini has come on recently in practice, particularly in one-on-one drills, and helped himself with a solid performance against the Bengals.The former tight end worked extensively as the No. 2 right tackle in practice this week and stands to get extended reps there tonight, depending how much coaches want to work Tony Moll at the position.“He gets out of his stance real well for a big guy,” Philbin said of Giacomini, who at 6-foot-7 is taller than every player on the roster except undrafted rookie tight end Joey Haynos. “Our line coaches thought he played well (against Cincinnati). He’s an aggressive kid.”Giacomini is far from a lock for the roster. But with Moll and Junius Coston struggling in camp, the rookie’s chances look better by the day, even though he doesn’t possess the versatility the veterans have. Seventh round 209. Matt Flynn, QB, LSUIt came against Cincinnati’s scrubs, but the 12-play, 62-yard touchdown drive Flynn generated while running the no-huddle offense stuck out on a night the Packers’ reserves generated no other points.Though he’s relatively raw, Flynn — who finished the game 12-for-21 for 97 yards and a touchdown, good for an 84.8 passer rating — at least has put himself in the conversation regarding the No. 2 quarterback job in spite of limited reps. If he follows up that strong performance with another one tonight, it’s likely coaches would begin splitting practice work more evenly and perhaps even work Flynn ahead of Brohm to see how he performs against stiffer competition.“He’s got some of those intangibles you kind of like,” Philbin said. “He’s got a little bit of zip to him, and guys rally around him a little bit. He’s been productive. Somehow, he moves the team. It’s not always textbook. It’s not necessarily always exactly the way you want it to be. But he’s demonstrated the ability to move the chains.”And that could make it difficult for the Packers to sneak him through waivers and put him on the practice squad — an option that seemed like a decent possibility only a couple of weeks ago.217. Brett Swain, WR, San Diego StateThe ninth and final draft pick is the longest shot to make the 53-man roster. Swain showed sure hands for much of the offseason, but he slipped up somewhat in the June minicamp and often has looked lost during training camp. “He’s been a little bit probably inconsistent at times,” Robinson said. “But he’s got talent, he definitely has ability, and now I think it’s just kind of a growing process. I think Brett’s done a good job at times, and at other times, he’s kind of learning like all the young kids are. It’s a day-to-day thing. … He definitely has talent, and hopefully, we get to see the talent.”Swain had two receptions for 10 yards, both from Flynn, in the preseason opener.The good news for Swain is no receiver has emerged for the potential No. 6 spot on the roster. The bad news is none of the players competing for that spot — Chris Francies, Johnny Quinn and Taj Smith — look like anything more than practice-squad material.
Looks like "terrible teddy's" lastest draft continue his "streak" of bad picks and no probolwers.. what JOY!!
Jordy Nelson is the No. 5 receiver.
Brian Brohm is scuffling to hold on to the No. 2 quarterback job.Pat Lee, Jermichael Finley and Jeremy Thompson are spending most of their time with the second and third units.Two seasons ago, five Green Bay Packers rookies started at least 10 games each for first-year coach Mike McCarthy. With two weeks until this year’s 53-man cutdown, fourth-round draft pick Josh Sitton is the only member of the 2008 draft class with any sort of shot at becoming a starter, barring injury.Should the Packers be concerned their 2008 draft class won’t do much to help a team that was a field goal away from the Super Bowl seven months ago?Or should they view the mountain the rookies are climbing towards playing time as a sign the roster is strong?The Packers strongly would argue the latter, even if they would have preferred someone such as Nelson or Lee to mount more of a challenge to the veterans in training camp. That only one starting job — right guard, where Sitton will make his second straight start in Saturday night’s preseason game at San Francisco — truly is up for grabs is another sign the roster is improved at the top.Over the past three years, only six of General Manager Ted Thompson’s 34 draft picks have failed to make the roster. If cuts came down today, only one of this year’s nine picks (seventh-round receiver Brett Swain) would be certain to get the ax.Five of the top six picks — Nelson, Brohm, Lee, Finley and Sitton — have made the team. Jeremy Thompson, the fourth-round end, remains a projection player but almost certainly will stick based on potential, while fifth-round tackle Breno Giacomini and seventh-round quarterback Matt Flynn have shown improvement recently and will merit strong consideration.Going eight deep in this year’s class would put the squeeze on, among others, some past Thompson picks: offensive linemen Junius Coston and Tony Moll, linebackers Abdul Hodge and Desmond Bishop, safety Tyrone Culver and running back DeShawn Wynn.“I think every year you make some pretty tough calls,” Thompson said this week. “I think this year there will be more of them, and I think that’s natural as you try to grow your core.”It’s also natural to wonder whether anyone in this year’s class will play a prominent role in September if Sitton doesn’t lock down a starting job.
36. Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas StateGeneral Manager Ted Thompson said this week coaches would find ways to get his top draft pick on the field.But Nelson is finding his way slowly, as most young receivers do, and hasn’t jumped out in training camp like then-rookie James Jones did last summer. At this point, Nelson is in essence No. 5 on the depth chart, though the Packers utilize different combinations of receivers depending on the package.In his preseason debut on Monday night against Cincinnati, Nelson played the most plays of any receiver but only had two catches — a 22-yarder from fellow rookie Brian Brohm with the Bengals playing to prevent the big play in the closing seconds of the first half, and a 13-yarder from Brohm on a crossing route early in the third quarter.“He’s very, very coachable and understands what you’re trying to tell him and what he needs to work on,” receivers coach Jimmy Robinson said. “I’m not going to be real specific about that except to say that there was progress (on Monday), because any time a young guy plays in a game like that, his first (NFL) preseason game of his life, you don’t expect perfection.”With starter Greg Jennings (knee) sidelined indefinitely and No. 4 receiver Ruvell Martin (jaw contusion, mild concussion) perhaps sitting out tonight as well, Nelson should have plenty of opportunities to show his progress with the starting offense.56. Brian Brohm, QB, LouisvilleCoach Mike McCarthy raved several times this offseason that Brohm picked up the offense more quickly than any quarterback he’s coached. Through the first week of training camp, Brohm had a team-best 63.1 completion percentage in team (11-on-11 drills). Though he continued to hold the ball too long at times, he appeared to be at his best in no-huddle and 2-minute situations.But Brohm’s performance has slipped the past week-and-a-half. His completion percentage in practice (48.3) is way down, and his 8-for-17 showing against the Bengals’ second string — including an interception on his first play — helped open the door for improving seventh-round draft pick Matt Flynn to make an unexpected push for the No. 2 job.One factor Brohm has going in his favor is experience, albeit at the college level. He started 33 games and threw for 10,775 yards and 71 touchdowns, compared to 12, 3,096 and 30 for Flynn.“He’s got a good grasp of the system,” offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said of Brohm. “There’s 11 moving pieces of an offensive unit, and for where he’s at in the stage of his career, I think he has a pretty good grasp of where the guys have to go.”He’ll get another chance to prove it tonight, most likely beginning late in the second quarter or early in the third, and he remains the favorite for the backup gig. If Flynn outplays him again, though, Brohm might begin losing practice and game reps to his fellow rookie in the coming weeks.60. Pat Lee, CB, AuburnTramon Williams, Will Blackmon and Jarrett Bush have gotten a look in training camp as the No. 3 cornerback behind veteran starters Al Harris and Charles Woodson, with Williams the clear favorite.Lee has kept a lower profile. Though he’s shown noticeable improvement and more confidence since a rough first five days of camp, he at best looks to be the No. 5 cornerback and will have to earn his way onto the 45-man game day roster on special teams.“He’s just got to go out and do it,” defensive nickel package/cornerbacks coach Lionel Washington said. “That’s the thing with young kids — you’ve got to go out and just play. You can’t worry about being a young kid or about a rookie. With ‘P-Lee,’ he’s a smart kid, he works hard, and he’s just got to get in the mix and say, ‘I’m competing for a job.’”Washington has praised Lee’s football smarts throughout the offseason — which is notable, since Lee’s low Wonderlic score (10) had to be considered a red flag. But in a unit Washington acknowledged is deeper than a year ago, Lee has a long road ahead to get on the field defensively.
91. Jermichael Finley, TE, TexasWith Tory Humphrey battling injuries again and three untested rookies behind him, the No. 2 tight end job is up for grabs.That would seem to give Finley a good chance to contribute immediately, but it remains to be seen whether he’ll block and settle well enough into a scheme that demands extensive presnap movement and flexibility from tight ends to justify playing early in his rookie season.“That’s a position that you might think would be easy to break into,” Philbin said, “but in our system, it takes a little bit of gymnastics to move around with all the things we ask of them. So, I think he’s making some good progress. He’s a nice target with real good hands. We’re anxious to see him continue.”Finley, who had two catches for 17 yards on Monday, gets off the line of scrimmage well and has flashed those hands on several occasions. It’s everything else that gives the sense that, at 21 and with only two seasons of college football behind him, Finley might not be ready to contribute immediately. However, it should be noted McCarthy and his staff have shown a willingness to throw young players into the mix, and unless Humphrey gets and stays healthy, they may have no choice but to do the same with Finley unless they pluck someone else off waivers after the final cutdown on Aug. 30.
102. Jeremy Thompson, DE, Wake ForestOf the top six draft picks, Thompson has been the least visible through camp.Coaches have worked Thompson mostly at right end with the third unit. He hasn’t had the sort of disastrous camp it takes for a fourth-round draft pick to play his way off the roster (see: Cory Rodgers, 2006). But with Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Michael Montgomery and Jason Hunter in front of him for playing time as backup ends, Thompson would need to emerge on special teams — something he’s yet to do — to have any chance to be active on Sundays, barring injuries.Asked whether he’s seen the pass-rushing acumen that made Ted Thompson trade up to select Jeremy Thompson in April, defensive ends coach Carl Hairston said, “He’s got it. He’s got a very explosive first step. He’s just got to learn to counter off those steps. He’s got the upfield move, and he’s got to learn how to move, to work inside and to continue to work outside.”Like Montgomery, Thompson has rare arm length — 35¾ inches on his 6-foot-4, 270-pound frame — that can give him an advantage once he diversifies his pass-rushing attack. The rookie also must become more explosive against the run.135. Josh Sitton, G, Central FloridaThe only rookie who has much chance for cracking the lineup in Week 1, Sitton will make his second start at right guard Saturday night in spite of an up-and-down preseason debut.“He certainly held his own,” Philbin said. “He’s an aware player overall. (Cincinnati) ran at us a good amount of games inside, twisting and so forth. He seems to have a pretty good feel for that. And he played a healthy amount of snaps. Sometimes, you’re concerned about a guy’s conditioning — can he hang in there and play? I think he played 45 or so plays. So, for his first time out, not so bad.”Coaches love Sitton’s attitude, and they’re giving an opportunity to he and Jason Spitz to bring stability to a position that’s changed hands so many times since Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera departed as free agents after the 2004 season. With the more experienced Daryn Colledge working in at right guard in practice, however, coaches wouldn’t hesitate to make a change if Sitton doesn’t continue to progress through the rest of the preseason.
150. Breno Giacomini, T, LouisvilleGiacomini has come on recently in practice, particularly in one-on-one drills, and helped himself with a solid performance against the Bengals.The former tight end worked extensively as the No. 2 right tackle in practice this week and stands to get extended reps there tonight, depending how much coaches want to work Tony Moll at the position.“He gets out of his stance real well for a big guy,” Philbin said of Giacomini, who at 6-foot-7 is taller than every player on the roster except undrafted rookie tight end Joey Haynos. “Our line coaches thought he played well (against Cincinnati). He’s an aggressive kid.”Giacomini is far from a lock for the roster. But with Moll and Junius Coston struggling in camp, the rookie’s chances look better by the day, even though he doesn’t possess the versatility the veterans have.
209. Matt Flynn, QB, LSUIt came against Cincinnati’s scrubs, but the 12-play, 62-yard touchdown drive Flynn generated while running the no-huddle offense stuck out on a night the Packers’ reserves generated no other points.Though he’s relatively raw, Flynn — who finished the game 12-for-21 for 97 yards and a touchdown, good for an 84.8 passer rating — at least has put himself in the conversation regarding the No. 2 quarterback job in spite of limited reps. If he follows up that strong performance with another one tonight, it’s likely coaches would begin splitting practice work more evenly and perhaps even work Flynn ahead of Brohm to see how he performs against stiffer competition.“He’s got some of those intangibles you kind of like,” Philbin said. “He’s got a little bit of zip to him, and guys rally around him a little bit. He’s been productive. Somehow, he moves the team. It’s not always textbook. It’s not necessarily always exactly the way you want it to be. But he’s demonstrated the ability to move the chains.”And that could make it difficult for the Packers to sneak him through waivers and put him on the practice squad — an option that seemed like a decent possibility only a couple of weeks ago.217. Brett Swain, WR, San Diego StateThe ninth and final draft pick is the longest shot to make the 53-man roster. Swain showed sure hands for much of the offseason, but he slipped up somewhat in the June minicamp and often has looked lost during training camp. “He’s been a little bit probably inconsistent at times,” Robinson said. “But he’s got talent, he definitely has ability, and now I think it’s just kind of a growing process. I think Brett’s done a good job at times, and at other times, he’s kind of learning like all the young kids are. It’s a day-to-day thing. … He definitely has talent, and hopefully, we get to see the talent.”Swain had two receptions for 10 yards, both from Flynn, in the preseason opener.The good news for Swain is no receiver has emerged for the potential No. 6 spot on the roster. The bad news is none of the players competing for that spot — Chris Francies, Johnny Quinn and Taj Smith — look like anything more than practice-squad material.
++O.K. let me get this straight. Ted Thompson has no probowlers++
FINALLY you get it geno!
dbears54:++O.K. let me get this straight. Ted Thompson has no probowlers++ FINALLY you get it geno!
1. injuries.
2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had.
3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time
have an adult explain the above.
dbears54:1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above.
geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying then is Chicago's bad year was based on injuries and "hangovers" while GB making it to the NFC Championship game was a "fluke"? Sorry DBears. Fluke teams may win an extra game or two but they DON'T make it into overtime in a Championship game. With as many defensive draft picks Angelo has spent -you'd think the bears would have better depth than what they had last year.
dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above.
Non-fluke team WIN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AT HOME! and go to the superbowl,,,
yA KNOW LIKE THE 2006 CHICAGO BEARS DID
remember that?.. : )
you stepped intot hat one kiddo
dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying then is Chicago's bad year was based on injuries and "hangovers" while GB making it to the NFC Championship game was a "fluke"? Sorry DBears. Fluke teams may win an extra game or two but they DON'T make it into overtime in a Championship game. With as many defensive draft picks Angelo has spent -you'd think the bears would have better depth than what they had last year. Non-fluke team WIN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AT HOME! and go to the superbowl,,, yA KNOW LIKE THE 2006 CHICAGO BEARS DID remember that?.. : ) you stepped intot hat one kiddo
geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying then is Chicago's bad year was based on injuries and "hangovers" while GB making it to the NFC Championship game was a "fluke"? Sorry DBears. Fluke teams may win an extra game or two but they DON'T make it into overtime in a Championship game. With as many defensive draft picks Angelo has spent -you'd think the bears would have better depth than what they had last year. Non-fluke team WIN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AT HOME! and go to the superbowl,,, yA KNOW LIKE THE 2006 CHICAGO BEARS DID remember that?.. : ) you stepped intot hat one kiddo I never said the 2006 Bears were a fluke team. I think they were a very good team with a horrendous QB. Fluke teams DON'T make it to the NFC Championship game. Including the '06 Chicago Bears.
So if rodgers wins less than 15 games, throws less than 23 td's and 3,200 yards i'll remind you BY YOUR STANDARDS, rdogers is a horrendous qb.. i'll keep this post for refence later.. : )
dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying then is Chicago's bad year was based on injuries and "hangovers" while GB making it to the NFC Championship game was a "fluke"? Sorry DBears. Fluke teams may win an extra game or two but they DON'T make it into overtime in a Championship game. With as many defensive draft picks Angelo has spent -you'd think the bears would have better depth than what they had last year. Non-fluke team WIN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AT HOME! and go to the superbowl,,, yA KNOW LIKE THE 2006 CHICAGO BEARS DID remember that?.. : ) you stepped intot hat one kiddo I never said the 2006 Bears were a fluke team. I think they were a very good team with a horrendous QB. Fluke teams DON'T make it to the NFC Championship game. Including the '06 Chicago Bears. So if rodgers wins less than 15 games, throws less than 23 td's and 3,200 yards i'll remind you BY YOUR STANDARDS, rdogers is a horrendous qb.. i'll keep this post for refence later.. : )
Bassman45:Missed the point again, eh Geno? "terribly misleading". Is that what you say instead of "LIES, ALL LIES" now?
IHATETHEBEARS:Here's a question for you. Since Ted Thompson became the Packers GM, how many Pro Bowl players has Jerry Angelo drafted?
I believe one in Devin Hester. I don't think Thompson was there when Tommie was drafted.
geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying then is Chicago's bad year was based on injuries and "hangovers" while GB making it to the NFC Championship game was a "fluke"? Sorry DBears. Fluke teams may win an extra game or two but they DON'T make it into overtime in a Championship game. With as many defensive draft picks Angelo has spent -you'd think the bears would have better depth than what they had last year. Non-fluke team WIN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AT HOME! and go to the superbowl,,, yA KNOW LIKE THE 2006 CHICAGO BEARS DID remember that?.. : ) you stepped intot hat one kiddo I never said the 2006 Bears were a fluke team. I think they were a very good team with a horrendous QB. Fluke teams DON'T make it to the NFC Championship game. Including the '06 Chicago Bears. So if rodgers wins less than 15 games, throws less than 23 td's and 3,200 yards i'll remind you BY YOUR STANDARDS, rdogers is a horrendous qb.. i'll keep this post for refence later.. : ) Your posts are terribly misleading. First of all, the Bears did not win 15 regular season games. They went 13-3. Also, it was not Grossmans first year. He started in '03. In addition, I never said Rogers would be a great QB. He could very well be horrendous. AGAIN, I said the jury is out on Rogers this year and I would still take his potential over what I know about Grossman. You will never be able to grasp this concept no matter how many times I repeat it.
are you really this dumb? BEARS WOn 15 games in 2006. 13 in reg. seaoson and 2 in the playoffs//
I understand because favre always flamed out in the playoffs the last decade you don't like to talk about the playoffs or losing AT HOME, but those do count in a year.. So yes Grossman won 15 games and lost 4 in threw for 3,200 and 23 td's.. and you call that horrible?.. so we have our standard for calling rodgers horrible in 2008..and 2006 was grossman first FULL year starting fool.. he was injured in the other years
And again you fail to understand, You SAY grossman was HORRIBLE in 2006.. so we can use that for a "standard" of what is horrible, nothing more, nothing less.. unless you are, as usual changing what you mean
Are you now saying grossman wasn't horrible in 2006? despite saying it 4 posts ago?
dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying then is Chicago's bad year was based on injuries and "hangovers" while GB making it to the NFC Championship game was a "fluke"? Sorry DBears. Fluke teams may win an extra game or two but they DON'T make it into overtime in a Championship game. With as many defensive draft picks Angelo has spent -you'd think the bears would have better depth than what they had last year. Non-fluke team WIN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AT HOME! and go to the superbowl,,, yA KNOW LIKE THE 2006 CHICAGO BEARS DID remember that?.. : ) you stepped intot hat one kiddo I never said the 2006 Bears were a fluke team. I think they were a very good team with a horrendous QB. Fluke teams DON'T make it to the NFC Championship game. Including the '06 Chicago Bears. So if rodgers wins less than 15 games, throws less than 23 td's and 3,200 yards i'll remind you BY YOUR STANDARDS, rdogers is a horrendous qb.. i'll keep this post for refence later.. : ) Your posts are terribly misleading. First of all, the Bears did not win 15 regular season games. They went 13-3. Also, it was not Grossmans first year. He started in '03. In addition, I never said Rogers would be a great QB. He could very well be horrendous. AGAIN, I said the jury is out on Rogers this year and I would still take his potential over what I know about Grossman. You will never be able to grasp this concept no matter how many times I repeat it. are you really this dumb? BEARS WOn 15 games in 2006. 13 in reg. seaoson and 2 in the playoffs// I understand because favre always flamed out in the playoffs the last decade you don't like to talk about the playoffs or losing AT HOME, but those do count in a year.. So yes Grossman won 15 games and lost 4 in threw for 3,200 and 23 td's.. and you call that horrible?.. so we have our standard for calling rodgers horrible in 2008..and 2006 was grossman first FULL year starting fool.. he was injured in the other years And again you fail to understand, You SAY grossman was HORRIBLE in 2006.. so we can use that for a "standard" of what is horrible, nothing more, nothing less.. unless you are, as usual changing what you mean Are you now saying grossman wasn't horrible in 2006? despite saying it 4 posts ago?
Wins trump all! 2006 Grossman > 2006 Tom Brady!!!!!!!!!!!
Packer Fan: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying t
dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying t
geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying t
dbears54: geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying t
geno59: dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying t
dbears54: geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying t
geno59: dbears54: 1. injuries. 2. An off year, after a superbowl "hangover" that esp. lately most of the superbowl losers have also had. 3. fluke year for packers after 2 non winning seaons, and when they go back to a bad year, it will prove last year a fluke.. happens in sports all the time have an adult explain the above. You mean have an adult help you write the above. So what you're saying t