J Snazzy:

I'm not sure what the "Unamortized" means when it comes to NFL and I figure you already accounted for this Dbears...but I read that we only have to pay Cutler 1 million this year because Denver is still paying for him

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-10-33/Revisiting-the-cap-impact-of-the-Cutler-trade.html

"Yes, Cutler ($1.035 million) will actually count slightly less against the Bears' salary cap in 2009 than Kyle Orton would have ($1.095 million). The reason, for you cap enthusiasts: By NFL cap rules, only Cutler's base salary travels with him to Chicago. The remaining proration from his guaranteed money remains on Denver's books."

Am I reading this right?

yesa nd no, the unamortized # is the rest of his signing bonus, is denver reaposnbibility( unamortized #).BUt they didn't count he $4 mill bonus he gets for 70% of snaps in 2009, which will be the ebars responsbibilty..So he technically get 1 mill, but he will also colelct a 4 mill bonus that needs tob e counted also..

dbears54:

J Snazzy:

I'm not sure what the "Unamortized" means when it comes to NFL and I figure you already accounted for this Dbears...but I read that we only have to pay Cutler 1 million this year because Denver is still paying for him

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-10-33/Revisiting-the-cap-impact-of-the-Cutler-trade.html

"Yes, Cutler ($1.035 million) will actually count slightly less against the Bears' salary cap in 2009 than Kyle Orton would have ($1.095 million). The reason, for you cap enthusiasts: By NFL cap rules, only Cutler's base salary travels with him to Chicago. The remaining proration from his guaranteed money remains on Denver's books."

Am I reading this right?

yesa nd no, the unamortized # is the rest of his signing bonus, is denver reaposnbibility( unamortized #).BUt they didn't count he $4 mill bonus he gets for 70% of snaps in 2009, which will be the ebars responsbibilty..So he technically get 1 mill, but he will also colelct a 4 mill bonus that needs tob e counted also..

Ahhh, thanks for clearing that up!

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Of someone like Cutler count against our cap?  It certainly counts against Denvr's (which tends to make trades harder if a player received a big signing bonus and is not that far into his contract), but why ours?

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$5.272m - $4m (rookie pool) = $1.272m...  Looks like things are getting a little tight after recent signings.  Any word on officially adding Marcus Harrison's unearned LTBE $9.7m bonus from last year?

VicF:

Of someone like Cutler count against our cap?  It certainly counts against Denvr's (which tends to make trades harder if a player received a big signing bonus and is not that far into his contract), but why ours?

JUSt the rest of Cutler's unamortized signing bonus is on denver's cap in 2009, the rest of the contract is on ours..( including the 100K workout bonus)

CB1980:

$5.272m - $4m (rookie pool) = $1.272m...  Looks like things are getting a little tight after recent signings.  Any word on officially adding Marcus Harrison's unearned LTBE $9.7m bonus from last year?

After draft we would get it

So as it looks DB we do not have much left in the piggy bank to go after anymore FA ie WR's unless or until we cut someone, is this correct?

Looks like whatever we do from here through the end of May is strictly coming from the draft and then maybe cuts after June to free up some cash if they want or need anymore FA.

thekmann:

So as it looks DB we do not have much left in the piggy bank to go after anymore FA ie WR's unless or until we cut someone, is this correct?

Looks like whatever we do from here through the end of May is strictly coming from the draft and then maybe cuts after June to free up some cash if they want or need anymore FA.

actually stil ahve money, because we will be getting a $9 mill+ LTBE for marcus hamilton back at teh end of april, bring the toital abck above $10 mill in space.. BUT even them if you figure they need to keep $4-6 mill at least as "insurance money" in case of injruies in camp( that if do not use an then use later to extend a player like izzy a contract in october or nov to use it up then), you are looking at 5-6 mill in space to sign F/A's which si still tight

Sorry but R. Davis was a waste of money, maybe if he took off the boxing gloves he could catch the ball.

I hate to pick on one player but after viewing stats for last year Davis is LAST, the guys below him are gone. But, I will give him a chance to improve in 2009. I apologize Rahshed Davis, just a veteran letting my emotions get the best of me. Go out in training camp and prove me an iamanidiot...

dbears54:

CB1980:

$5.272m - $4m (rookie pool) = $1.272m...  Looks like things are getting a little tight after recent signings.  Any word on officially adding Marcus Harrison's unearned LTBE $9.7m bonus from last year?

After draft we would get it

Do all teams have to wait till after the draft for their LTBE credit?  Maybe that could explain why Holt hasn't signed anywhere yet.

Quik_7_Devin:

dbears54:

CB1980:

$5.272m - $4m (rookie pool) = $1.272m...  Looks like things are getting a little tight after recent signings.  Any word on officially adding Marcus Harrison's unearned LTBE $9.7m bonus from last year?

After draft we would get it

Do all teams have to wait till after the draft for their LTBE credit?  Maybe that could explain why Holt hasn't signed anywhere yet.

yep..

Pace's final #'s"

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/04/dollars_and_sense_the_orlando.html

2009

$1 million signing bonus
$3.4 million roster bonus
$250,000 workout bonus
$1.35 million base salary

Total: $6 million
Cap number: $5,333,33

ESPN said the Bears have allocated $ 3,497,511.00 for the rookies...does this change the cap # at all?

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navy&orange:

ESPN said the Bears have allocated $ 3,497,511.00 for the rookies...does this change the cap # at all?

yep we get a little more than 500,000 than teh estimate I had( which was 4 mill before the drfat and trade downs)..

Rookie pool allocations

Team	Picks	Pool
1. Lions	10	$8,074,992
2. Broncos	10	$7,117,871
3. Bengals	8	$6,636,324
4. Patriots	12	$6,032,711
5. Bills	8	$5,940,374
6. Rams	7	$5,925,441
7. Jaguars	9	$5,737,150
8. Chiefs	8	$5,538,247
9. Packers	8	$5,443,396
10. Seahawks	7	$5,192,801
11. Titans	11	$5,158,799
12. Raiders	7	$5,048,693
13. Browns	8	$4,928,948
14. Giants	9	$4,867,462
15. Dolphins	9	$4,820,998
16. Cowboys	12	$4,639,193
17. Texans	8	$4,603,346
18. Steelers	9	$4,284,902
19. Chargers	8	$4,200,683
20. Falcons	8	$4,126,197
21. 49ers	7	$4,107,801
22. Colts	8	$4,079,726
23. Eagles	8	$4,060,021
24. Cardinals	8	$3,976,197
25. Bears	9	$3,497,111
26. Redskins	6	$3,460,954
27. Jets	3	$3,429,442
28. Colts	6	$3,372,231
29. Bucs	6	$3,359,466
30. Panthers	7	$3,326,694
31. Vikings	5	$3,064,512
32. Saints	3	$2,802,342
Total	256	$150,755,025

Dammmm...I was $400.97 off 

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When I got there, money pretty much went out the window," said Gaines, who agreed to a one-year contract with the Bears, the terms of which were not disclosed. The minimum salary for a veteran with four to six credited seasons is $620,000.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/05/contract_for_te_michael_gaines.html

Michael Gaines' deal with the Bears can be worth as much as $1.25 million if he hits the bonuses and incentives in the one-year contract.

Gaines will receive the minimum in base pay for the veteran at $620,000, but he can trigger the other money in the contract.

Once again, the rookie salary cap is a percentage of the total cap, that percentage to "be determined" by a panel of player and owner reps. The bargaining agreement does not allow the how or why to be released to the public. The number of players drafted, their round and number drafted, and their position is all taken into account when determining the rookie cap. I doubt that the caps have been determined yet. Everything else is mindless speculation. You are welcome! The cap is different for every team!

I don`t know about those numbers posted, they certainly don`t seem to allow for the Lions to pay all they will have to, same with the Eagles. When I have thought about this, especially if I ever aquired multiple picks in the 1st and 2nd rounds. If the aren`t going to assign a cap that allows you to do your business fairly, then I believe I would have a court case. Granted, in my plans, I trade and release players reducing overall salary obligation, clearing space, realizing I have to take my cap hits up front, and then, push bonus money back a year or two, breaking it up however I need to to make everything fit and doable, but I think the panel that determines your cap, the % not the actual number, (because you can adjust your own rookie cap, by changing your overall payroll, thereby changing the amount from the percentage of that payroll), must allow for you to sign all of your draft choices at a salary they would expect for where they were drafted, etc., otherwise they are damaging your ability to do business and compete(unfair business practice). Anyway, how can you post those numbers, when the rookie salary cap is a % of the total cap, not a number written in stone?

The rookie salary cap can not exceed a "%" determined by the panel for each individual team, based on their draft. Let`s say I am $30,000,000.00 under the cap, and I am assigned a rookie cap of say 5%. Let`s just say total salary is $100,000,000.00, which would mean I can spend $5,000,000.00 on my rookies, however, if I sign $30,000,000.00 worth of free agents, my rookie cap goes up to $6,500,000.00. Anyway, the number is adjustable, but the % is not. I think this is the case, or it`s % of the cap, not the salary. Been awhile since I researched it, but I think it`s salary. In any case, there really isn`t all that much room for negotiation, because the team can in the end, only spend so much on rookies, and every rookie has to be paid, one guy can`t get it all. I really don`t understand the holdout thing, must not be about the money, but the terms, years, etc.

Hey!, If I`m Orlando Pace, if I can get $5,000,000.00 a year, I`m going to keep dragging my carcas onto the field as long as I can, whether I can play or not, as long as they are foolish enough to play me. I won`t tell `em I`m done till after I`m paid, just like Tait did, after all it`s a business, and there`s no business more important than mine. Would have been of Tait to retire before the 2008 season, not after, but then again, Angelo should know!, but Lovie has to take care of his boy before he get`s kicked out of Chicago. When, oh when, will the Bears start living in the future instead of the past? 33 years old? 3 years at $5,000,000.00. $15,000,000.00? No sense in paying him for what he "was" if he wasn`t that for us? Old farts don`t win Super Bowls! Give us all a break and get us some premium young stud talent, whose best days are ahead oif them, not behind them! Sheesh!

Another $1 mill of cap space! Salary cap has been bumped to $128 mill after final adjustments per ESPN report!

The league informed teams Wednesday that a "cash-adjustment mechanism" from final accounting figures in May will give clubs $947,000 of additional salary cap room, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in an e-mail to The Associated Press on Friday.

Full story in link.

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(Mark my words. If Matt Toeaina isn't retained and given a chance, it will be a decision that the coaching staff will come to deeply regret!) Now let's see him given a chance!
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Afrocomb:

Another $1 mill of cap space! Salary cap has been bumped to $128 mill after final adjustments per ESPN report!

Final adjustment increases salary cap

The league informed teams Wednesday that a "cash-adjustment mechanism" from final accounting figures in May will give clubs $947,000 of additional salary cap room, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in an e-mail to The Associated Press on Friday.

Full story in link.

 That's it?!  So we have over 20 million still available aside from the rookie pool to spend. I would say we won't waste much of it. They will get ready to re-due Cutler's contract and maybe 1 key acquisition at WR. I'd love Ochocinco over Boldin ;)

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bear nut:

The rookie salary cap can not exceed a "%" determined by the panel for each individual team, based on their draft. Let`s say I am $30,000,000.00 under the cap, and I am assigned a rookie cap of say 5%. Let`s just say total salary is $100,000,000.00, which would mean I can spend $5,000,000.00 on my rookies, however, if I sign $30,000,000.00 worth of free agents, my rookie cap goes up to $6,500,000.00. Anyway, the number is adjustable, but the % is not. I think this is the case, or it`s % of the cap, not the salary. Been awhile since I researched it, but I think it`s salary. In any case, there really isn`t all that much room for negotiation, because the team can in the end, only spend so much on rookies, and every rookie has to be paid, one guy can`t get it all. I really don`t understand the holdout thing, must not be about the money, but the terms, years, etc.

Yikes!

nothing you wrote makes any sense or factually true, sorry

each and every pick is "slotted" and the above is the exact amount each team has to spend on their rookies, and it is NOT a % of the cap, but has to do w/ how mnay picks AND what round for detirmining the amounts

you are wrong