Updated 10/22/09

Mod's , as Usual if stick, i'll update with each move, as this will be the main topic on conversation, and for those that don't like  numbers I'll put the number left at top so don't have to look for it.

Estimated Salary cap room left-  $3.267  mil

NAME............ base salary.........Signing bonus( unamortized)....Other bonus  ...TOTAL.. Contract. yea

1, Afalava        $310,000            $25,000                 -0-                                     $335,000   2012

2. Adams, A       $850,000           $250,000                  -0-                           $1,100,000      2010

2A Adams G     $685,000               -                         -0-                                 $685,000     2012

3.Anderson M    $530,000            $39,000                  -0-                                $569,000      2009

4. Baldwin.E       $385,000            $30,000                  -0-                                $415,000      2011

5. Beekman J      $460,000           $97,500                   -0-                                $557,500      2010

6.Bennet, E         $385,000           $205,000                -0-                                 $590,000      2011

7. Bowman Z       $385,000             $73,750               -0-                                  $458,750      2011

8 .Briggs, L         $1,100,000          $667,000            $5,000,000                     $6,767,000     2013

9. .Brown A         $745,000            $2,235,000             -0  -                            $2,980,000     2011

10 .Buenning D     $545,000                -0-                     - 0-                                  $545,000     2009

11.Clark D          $1,000,000          $667,000            $475,000                         $2,142,000    2010

12. Cutler J       $1,035,000          $1,400,000             $7,000,000                   $11,435,000   2013

13.Davis K        $385,000             $42,000                -0-                                   $427,000       2011

14.Davis R         $765,000            $367,000            $450,000                         $1,582,000      2010

15 Forte M         $385,000           $382,500               -0-                                   $767,500      2011

16 Garza,R         $745,000           $583,000               -0-                                $1,328,000      2011

17. Gilbert,J        $310,000          $185,000           -0-                                    $485,0000      2012

18.B Gaines       $620.000            -0-                  $625,000                            *1,250,000    2009

19.Gould R         $750,000                -0-                  $2,150,000                     $2,900,000      2013

20 Graham C       $460,000            $37,5000               -0-                                 $497,500      2010

21 Harrison M      $385,000          $172,500                 -0-                                 $557,500     2011

22 Hanie C           $385,000             -0-                      -0-                                   $385,000     2011

23 Harris T           $620,000         $1,808,000           $6,670,000                     $9,080,000    2012

24 Hester D          $555,000          $833,000             $5,250,000                     $6,638,000    2013

25 Hillenmayer H    $1,500,000       $1,000,000             -0-                              $2,500,000    2011

26 Idonije I            $1,700,000       $900,000           1,000,000                        $3,600,000     2011

27. Iglessia J          $310.000           $125,000            -0-                                  $ 435,000     2012

28. Jones K          $1,000,000       $250,000           $ 500,000                         $1,750.000      2010

29. knox J            $310,000           $51,000                -0-                                 $361,000       2012

30. Kruetz O         $2,333,000       $3,000,000             -0-                               $5,333,000    2010

31. Manelly P         $770,000          $93,000                 -0-                                  $863,000     2009

32.Manning D         $530,000          $400,000              -0-                                   $930,000    2009

33. Maynard B       $1,030,000        $360,000              -0-                                $1,390,000    2009

34 Mckie,J             $745,000           $250,000              -0-                                    $995,000  2011      

35. moore, dj        $310,000                $116,668          -0-                                  $426,668   2012  

36 Ogunlaye A        $4,8000,000      $2,500,000           -0-                                $7,300,000   2009

37. Olsen G             $460,000            $50,000            $100,000                           $610,000  2011

38 Omiyale,F           $620,000          $450,000           $3,880,00                        $4,950,000   2012

39. Tinoisamoa, P   $1,000,000          -                  $500,000                              $1,500,000   2009

40. Pace. O              $1,350,000     $333,333            $3,650,000                      $5,333,333    2011

41 Payne K               $460,000           $37,500               -0-                                 $497,500    2010

42 Peterson A          $745,000           $333,333             -0-                                $1,078,333   2009

43 Loius Lance        $310.000          $10,0000             -0-                                   $420,000   2012

44 Roach N              $460,000             -0-                --0-                                  $460,000      2010

45. Shaffer,K            $183,000          750,000        1.,450,00                            $2,383,000    2011

46 Stelz C                 $385,000            $111,250            -0-                                $496,250     2011

47 Tillman C              $2,250,000       $2,570,000          -0-                                  4,820,000   2013

48. Toeaina M           $460,000              -0-                    -0-                                  $460,000   2010

**49.Urlacher B           $5,950,000        $3,725,000           $50,000                      $9,725,000    2011

50 Vasher n              $2,950,000         $1,900,000          -0-                               $4,850,000   2011

51. Williams C           $385,000           $100,000         $1,391,250                       $1,876,200  2011

52 Williams J             $530,000           $111,250                -0-                            $641,250      2010

53 Wolfe G                $460,000           $155,000              -0-                              $615,000     2011

** conotes IR

[TOTAL SALARY]                   $1116,208,384

Dead cap Hit 2009*                      $8.624 mill*

LTBE's Not hit                               $1,5000,000

UTBE hit                                       $1,400,000*

Marcus hamilton-$ 9 .1 million LTBE not hit

Estimated Salary cap              $128,000,000

CAP SPACE Avaiable     $3.267  mill

 

Dead Space:

brian griese- $1,350,000

moose- $1,500,000

benson - $2,575,000

booker- $250,000

tait- $500,0000

metcalf- $1,749,000

orton $700,000

total= $8.624 million

UTBE- mike brown $1.4 million

LTBE NOT HIT- rex grossman $1.5million

**The Bears signed offensive linemen Cody Balogh and Tyler Reed, wide receivers John Broussard and Rudy Burgess, tight end Fontel Mines, defensive end Joe Clermond and linebacker Marcus Riley to reserve/ future contracts.

 

 

 

Cap hits of 2009:

1. Marty booker- $250,000 Unamortized signing bonus

2. Linebackers Gilbert Gardner and Marcus Riley were also released.No cap hits

3. john tait retires- $4.8 mill salary saved  $500,000 unamortized signing bonus

4.terrence metcalf cut,,, we take a cap hit of $1.749 mill of unamortized SB, but save 1 mill of salary, so cost .749,000 of space

Free agent signings:

The Bears signed offensive linemen Cody Balogh and Tyler Reed, wide receivers John Broussard and Rudy Burgess, tight end Fontel Mines, defensive end Joe Clermond and linebacker Marcus Riley to reserve/ future contracts.

1. 2/04-  Brett Basanez to a two-year contract.

2009- $385,000 2010- 470,000

2. marcus hamilton - $385,000

3. josh Bullocks- $525,000 salary 675,000 LTBE $1. 2 mill potential 1 year deal

4. K. jones- 2 yr 3.5 mill deal 2009- 500K RB + 500K SB + 1 mill Sal= 2 mill cap

5. frank omiyale- 4 year $11-14 mill deal.. 2009- $1.8 mill SB+ $3.7 RB+$620K Sal+180K W.)=$4.95 mill cap space

5. Kevin shaffer- 3 years $8 mill- 2009 , $550,000 SB +1.2 Rb .1 mill= $2.383 mill cap space

6. Orlando pace- 3 years $15 mill, $6.1 mill first year

7. Jay cutler- 2009: $1.035 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus),  4 mill incentive top 5 in any passing category

8. Michael Gaines- $620,000 salary $625,000 incentives= $1,250,000

9.  Tinoisamoa, Pisa- $1,000,000 salary 1 year deal

Rookie Cap and signings:

total cap to spend 25. Bears 9 $3,497,111

6 signed 5/29

D.J. Moore, Johnny Knox, Marcus Freeman, Al Afalava, Lance Louis and Derek Kinder.

The six players all received four-year contracts. The base value of the annual salaries for each player is $1.75 million.

2009 $310,000
2010 $395,000
2011 $480,000
2012 $565,000

cap space:

Melton- $127,807 + $310,000= $437,807

moore- $116,688 +$310,000=$426,688

Knox- $51,060+ $310,000= $361,060

freeman- $45,425+$310,000=$355,425

Afalava-$25,150+ $310,000= $335,150

Louis- $10,495 +$310,000= $320,495

kinder- $9,416+ $310,000= 319,416

Gilbert,  $740,000( $185,000+$310,000=$495,000 + $146,500 NLTBE

Iglesias $500,000.(120,000) +$ 310,000=$430,000 +$119,900 NLTBE

total= $3,481,041

Cap limit- $3,497,111

$16,000 under .. great job

 

 

Thanks for the info.  Your always ontop of things.

If you don't mind me asking, where did you find the details for Harrison's base salary? Rotoworld had it as undisclosed. There's a couple other people like that when I was making my rough estimate that I couldn't find. Would be nice to have another source of intel if I do a rough one again next season :)

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Philadelphia, St. Louis, Green Bay, Minnesota, @Detroit

Losses - Pitt, @Atlanta, Arizona, @San Francisco, @Minnesota, @Baltimore
Prediction: 10-6(Best/Worst case +/- 1)

beckdawg:

If you don't mind me asking, where did you find the details for Harrison's base salary? Rotoworld had it as undisclosed. There's a couple other people like that when I was making my rough estimate that I couldn't find. Would be nice to have another source of intel if I do a rough one again next season :)

NFLPA and suntimes are much better ( rotoworld just copy/pastes)

Harrison, Marcus
View information related to ' Harrison, Marcus ' on NFLPlayers.com
Player Info	Draft Info
DT (#)	Year: 2008
Chicago Bears	Round: 3
,	Position: 27
Salary History
2008 295000.00 2009 385000.00 2010 470000.00 2011 555000.00

SZOMP:

Thanks for the info.  Your always ontop of things.

No problem.. And keep in mind a few players like tait, ogun etc are either going to have to restucture or be cut, so we probably will be gaining more space in feb/march when cuts/roster bonuses due..last year it was griese, moose, walker miller,arch rmj.. all going to give us more space..

i'd also say players like mcgowan and rex will not get offers from bears

Tait is making 7 million??????  That is probowl money for a below average tackle, wow he needs to go.

7th Floor Crew:

Tait is making 7 million??????  That is probowl money for a below average tackle, wow he needs to go.

Its the last year of his deal from 2002( and back then Usually had bigger salaries at end).. I really doubt Bears will pay him the $4.8 mill salary,, he will either restructure  or be cut, he's one of the "cap savings" that will happen, but until actually happens and how, its the much higher number for now

DB, do you think we will pay Ogun that money? or would he be a restructure or cut? and same for Vash

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BearsMod18:

DB, do you think we will pay Ogun that money? or would he be a restructure or cut? and same for Vash

think both ogun and tait are gone if they do not restruture.. Vasher a little tough ebcuase unlike tait/ogun who are in their last year ofdeals, vasher still has 4 years left,, so his unamortized cap # is $7.6 million, so that is a big cap hit, doubt they do that..

bears free agents in 2009:

1. rex grossman

2. john st. clair

3. mike brown

4. marcus hamilton

5. brandon lloyd

6. kevin jones

 

 

Bears in last year of contracts:( that may be worth locking up or not)

1booker

2. m anderson

3. izzy idonije

4.olin kreutz

5.patrick manelly

6. D. manning

7. A. ogunlaye

8. kyle orton

9. brandon riddea

10. John tait

11. matt toeinia

12 . Jamar wiliams

13 A. peterson

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IMO, of the free agents, you make an offer to mike brown based on playing time incenetives( as ask him to be the Db coach if he's done), and make a try at st/ clair for his versalitiy along line( he's not a starter BUT very good depth guy for both guard and tackle, and all teams need that, will depend on price).. rest will be gone.. can't imagine lloyd back

Of the last year guys, only izzy i'd want to see locked up before Free agency..he's a valuab;e part of the d-line rotation AND ST, and will get offers if we let him get to F/a.. Manning intrguing, esp with his ST play, but again i'd let that go into oct and see how he does to start 2009, before any offer. olin/tait/ogun on last legs literally and think they may not be here even in 2009, much less extensions

 

 

 

Definitely lock up Izzy. Don't forget Mannelly, he is the definition of consistency at long snapper.

In order to have the bears  back on the right track (playoff team), we need to get rid of Lovie Smith or demote him and hire mike shanahan... Mike Shanahan was fired from the broncos and will be a prefect fit for chicago... Mike grew up outside of chicago and he knows how build a team using the westcoast offense system... that is the best possible way i can see it.. along with that he did win back to back superbowls something mr. ditka couldn't do...

dbears54:

bears free agents in 2009:

1. rex grossman

2. john st. clair

3. mike brown

4. marcus hamilton

5. brandon lloyd

6. kevin jones

 

 

Bears in last year of contracts:( that may be worth locking up or not)

1booker

2. m anderson

3. izzy idonije

4.olin kreutz

5.patrick manelly

6. D. manning

7. A. ogunlaye

8. kyle orton

9. brandon riddea

10. John tait

11. matt toeinia

12 . Jamar wiliams

13 A. peterson

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IMO, of the free agents, you make an offer to mike brown based on playing time incenetives( as ask him to be the Db coach if he's done), and make a try at st/ clair for his versalitiy along line( he's not a starter BUT very good depth guy for both guard and tackle, and all teams need that, will depend on price).. rest will be gone.. can't imagine lloyd back

Of the last year guys, only izzy i'd want to see locked up before Free agency..he's a valuab;e part of the d-line rotation AND ST, and will get offers if we let him get to F/a.. Manning intrguing, esp with his ST play, but again i'd let that go into oct and see how he does to start 2009, before any offer. olin/tait/ogun on last legs literally and think they may not be here even in 2009, much less extensions

Thanks for the earlier answer. As far as who we resign, I think you could add Lloyd to that but after JA's comments I don't know. He falls into the "players not playing hard" comment JA made. However, we have next to nothing in depth. He's easily our second best WR right now.

For 2010, I think Peterson is probably worth resigning to a small deal. I agree on Izzy. Possibly Toe too.

I'd like to see us cut Ogunleye and use the $2-3 million we save to persue peppers or suggs. I don't really see us keeping Ogunleye at all. Its obvious we need to upgrade that position. So, if we sign some one he's not really of a use. I suppose we could restructure and then draft someone but DE is a position rookies can come in and play. So, I think he's the most likely person to be cut.

Tait is obviously the second most likely but I could see us keeping him if he restructures. I see us draftinng a RT in the 3rd or 4th round. We need someone in front of them in case they aren't ready. So, I could see Tait or possibly St. Clair filling that position. I would prefer if we got a guy like Vernon Carey.

I think with Peppers/Suggs and Carey we'd have 5-6 million left. Not much but we could sign a cheaper vet QB

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Wins - @GB, @Seattle, Detroit, @Cincinnat, Cleveland,
Philadelphia, St. Louis, Green Bay, Minnesota, @Detroit

Losses - Pitt, @Atlanta, Arizona, @San Francisco, @Minnesota, @Baltimore
Prediction: 10-6(Best/Worst case +/- 1)

Gruber:

Definitely lock up Izzy. Don't forget Mannelly, he is the definition of consistency at long snapper.

good point!.. yeah can't see him goping anywhere, he wil resign, just been a rock esp with olin not wanting to do ST

beckdawg:

dbears54:

bears free agents in 2009:

1. rex grossman

2. john st. clair

3. mike brown

4. marcus hamilton

5. brandon lloyd

6. kevin jones

 

 

Bears in last year of contracts:( that may be worth locking up or not)

1booker

2. m anderson

3. izzy idonije

5.patrick manelly

6. D. manning

7. A. ogunlaye

8. kyle orton

9. brandon riddea

10. John tait

11. matt toeinia

12 . Jamar wiliams

13 A. peterson

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IMO, of the free agents, you make an offer to mike brown based on playing time incenetives( as ask him to be the Db coach if he's done), and make a try at st/ clair for his versalitiy along line( he's not a starter BUT very good depth guy for both guard and tackle, and all teams need that, will depend on price).. rest will be gone.. can't imagine lloyd back

Of the last year guys, only izzy i'd want to see locked up before Free agency..he's a valuab;e part of the d-line rotation AND ST, and will get offers if we let him get to F/a.. Manning intrguing, esp with his ST play, but again i'd let that go into oct and see how he does to start 2009, before any offer. olin/tait/ogun on last legs literally and think they may not be here even in 2009, much less extensions

Thanks for the earlier answer. As far as who we resign, I think you could add Lloyd to that but after JA's comments I don't know. He falls into the "players not playing hard" comment JA made. However, we have next to nothing in depth. He's easily our second best WR right now.

For 2010, I think Peterson is probably worth resigning to a small deal. I agree on Izzy. Possibly Toe too.

I'd like to see us cut Ogunleye and use the $2-3 million we save to persue peppers or suggs. I don't really see us keeping Ogunleye at all. Its obvious we need to upgrade that position. So, if we sign some one he's not really of a use. I suppose we could restructure and then draft someone but DE is a position rookies can come in and play. So, I think he's the most likely person to be cut.

Tait is obviously the second most likely but I could see us keeping him if he restructures. I see us draftinng a RT in the 3rd or 4th round. We need someone in front of them in case they aren't ready. So, I could see Tait or possibly St. Clair filling that position. I would prefer if we got a guy like Vernon Carey.

I think with Peppers/Suggs and Carey we'd have 5-6 million left. Not much but we could sign a cheaper vet QB

Yeah can see both tait/ogun needing restrtutures or gone, and agree about a Pass rusher, either in F/A or Draft... Also keep in mind if we decide to make a splash in F/a  we do have an "ace-in-the-hole"

These contracts last year structured to give the bears maximum flexibility, and while they don't want to do all the time( because will create dead cap issues later on)..we have rosters bonuses totalling alittle over $20  million..( briggs$ 4.75 mill+hester $5 mill+ harris $6.67 mill+ gould  $2.15 mill+ davis $400K+$ 1.126 mill c. cwillams).

toal roster bonuses= $20.09 million

So we could change even let's say briggs and tommie( or hester) Roster bonus into a signign bonus( both indy and new england used this to save cap money with brady and manning recently), and create  rough;y another $8 million in space on just those 2( you take the roster bonus and divide it by years left to the yearly cap cost and subtract from total to get saving for 2009)..

 

This is a great post..very informative. I can see 15 or 20 mil added to that bottomline with no problem.  Harris for sure Tait Vasher Tillman as possiblities. This is going to be a tricky year due to the possibility of next year may be uncapped..if thats the case players may be signing 1 yr contacts or extensions to have their names out there when the market goes nuts.

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How much do you think a legit #1 wide receiver, i.e. Houshmandzadeh, would take, and would it be worth it to commit that much cap space?  Also, if McNabb is in play how much do you think he would take to come to Chicago?  Personally I'd be willing to see a big chunk go there and try to fill most of the other holes throught the draft.

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The future is unwritten. - Joe Strummer

Dbears, I think Olin is signed through 2010.

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SVBearsfan:

Dbears, I think Olin is signed through 2010.

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thanks! you are correct, they had 2010 out of order, so didn't catch it,,

Kreutz, Olin
View information related to
Player Info	Draft Info
OL (#57)	Year: 1998
Chicago Bears	Round: 3
Honolulu, HI	Position: 3
Salary History
2002 525000.00 2003 1500000.00 2010 2333334.00 2004 1500000.00 2005 2500000.00 2006 12444444.00 2007 3450000.00 2008 2333333.00 2009 2333333.00

I read in one of the Chicago papers that at the deadline the Bear's gave Hamilton (a Exclusive Rights FA) an $8M incentive if he made some unobtainalbe number of special teams tackles...  How is that accounted for in th numbers....

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ABQbearfan:

How much do you think a legit #1 wide receiver, i.e. Houshmandzadeh, would take, and would it be worth it to commit that much cap space?  Also, if McNabb is in play how much do you think he would take to come to Chicago?  Personally I'd be willing to see a big chunk go there and try to fill most of the other holes throught the draft.

it would prob take $45-55 million 6 yr conrtact ,, which would be roughly 5.5 mill cap hit for 2009

VicF:

I read in one of the Chicago papers that at the deadline the Bear's gave Hamilton (a Exclusive Rights FA) an $8M incentive if he made some unobtainalbe number of special teams tackles...  How is that accounted for in th numbers....

actually it was said on score, not in papers and I was never able to verify it- so I do not think it was legit( there is a surprise).. ESPn cap mubers also don't have FWIW( the differrence between my number and theirs Is I have the LYBE's and ULTBE"s and they don't), but we are within 300,000 after backin them down.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-7-45/Black-and-Blue--salary--caps.html

Black and Blue (salary) caps

January 5, 2009 7:00 PM