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Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

Last post 07-04-2009, 8:23 PM by gramster10. 16 replies.
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  •  07-04-2009, 12:02 AM 1660019

    Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    Chicago Bears

    Overrated: CB Charles Tillman. He is their top corner but struggled last season. He's also coming off shoulder surgery.

    Underrated: S Kevin Payne. He's a playmaking safety in his third season who just might be ready for his first Pro Bowl.


    according to CBS sports


    Full article here. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11916896

  •  07-04-2009, 12:05 AM 1660022 in reply to 1660019

    Re: Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    Minnesota Vikings

    Overrated: QB Brett Favre. Hey, he's coming. And he isn't the answer to this team's troubles.


    Finally someone notices

  •  07-04-2009, 12:06 AM 1660023 in reply to 1660019

    Re: Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    Insane Legend:

    Chicago Bears

    Overrated: CB Charles Tillman. He is their top corner but struggled last season. He's also coming off shoulder surgery.

    Underrated: S Kevin Payne. He's a playmaking safety in his third season who just might be ready for his first Pro Bowl.


    according to CBS sports


    Full article here. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11916896



    payne misses open field tackles, and charles tillman is great at breaking up passes/ intercepting

    R.I.P cristopher wallace A.K,A Biggie smalls

  •  07-04-2009, 12:09 AM 1660028 in reply to 1660023

    Re: Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    how is Tillman overated, does he go to Pro Bowls, everyone always has a knock for our secondary, the guy put a pretty good year despite having a huge scare with his daughter and shoulder injuries, Kevin Payne was in the right spot at the right time with his picks, kinda like MIke Brown without the instincts.
  •  07-04-2009, 12:11 AM 1660030 in reply to 1660028

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    that whole list is a joke and that writer is too.everybody knows that guy is the complete worse writer in the game,i would'nt put much stock into this artical.

    also tillman your classic cover 2 corner as well as vasher.by all experts in the league they will be nothing but safetys on other teams because CB have to run 4.3 to 4.4


  •  07-04-2009, 12:12 AM 1660031 in reply to 1660019

    Re: Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    Yeah. Probably. But if anything who do you guys think is overated/underrated on the team? Harris/Urlacher over?
  •  07-04-2009, 12:49 AM 1660039 in reply to 1660031

    Re: Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    Insane Legend:
    Yeah. Probably. But if anything who do you guys think is overated/underrated on the team? Harris/Urlacher over?
    We get so much hate from the national media that it would be hard to call anyone overrated, I guess if I had to pick anyone it would be Olin
  •  07-04-2009, 1:03 AM 1660043 in reply to 1660039

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    i read the whole list and this guy is a fool...he called boldin overrated because "he thinks that he is as good as fitzgerald"...and abrham from the falcons because "he think he is good"...and then he goes on to say players like javon walker and jake delhomme and vernon davis overrated...who overrates them ??

  •  07-04-2009, 1:27 AM 1660049 in reply to 1660043

    Re: Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    i am a better journalist than pete prisco
    MID. WAY. JAY.
  •  07-04-2009, 1:41 AM 1660057 in reply to 1660019

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    Payne will be good the others I m worried about (Bullocks,Steltz) I remember Steltz getting ran over from Grant last year not good and Steltz  a upgrade over Bullocks.  Tillman underrated for sure Tillmans the man no doubt.
  •  07-04-2009, 2:24 AM 1660063 in reply to 1660057

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    I agree Tillman is a warrior. does anyone remember in the vikings game at the metrodome last year. on Adrian Peterson's longest run of the game, Tillman ran him down impressively. Some redemption from those bad angles he took in 07.

    As he was walking away I said to him "Go Bears". At which point he looked at me with an intensity and anticipation I had never seen from him.
  •  07-04-2009, 3:44 AM 1660079 in reply to 1660063

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    To my mind Tillman is far from over-rated.  Cornerbacks who can play cover-2 properly are rare, compared to those who are just man coverage guys.  He is a huge player for us, which is evident when he is not playing or is playing injured.  If only we had more players like him because we really need at least 3 (ideally 4) very good cornerbacks on our roster to get through a season.  These guys cant be heavy as they need good speed, but at the same time need to be tackling machines, so I would take more of him on the team in a heartbeat.
  •  07-04-2009, 7:37 AM 1660118 in reply to 1660019

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    Tillman in my opinion is the most under rated , under appreciated player in the entire NFL ! I believe he is right up there with Champ Bailey . It figures a story about fantasy football !
  •  07-04-2009, 7:44 AM 1660119 in reply to 1660019

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    I would like someone to show me a better corner that can strip the ball away better that Tillman can.
  •  07-04-2009, 8:16 AM 1660138 in reply to 1660019

    Re: Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    Insane Legend:

    Chicago Bears

    Overrated: CB Charles Tillman. He is their top corner but struggled last season. He's also coming off shoulder surgery.

    First off, I believe the writer got the order of his points wrong.  Tillman struggled some last season BECAUSE of his shoulder injury.

    Secondly, when Peanut is healthy, he is a BEAST!

     

    I do. however, agree with his assesment of Favre being over-rated.


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  •  07-04-2009, 2:05 PM 1660456 in reply to 1660138

    Re: Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    Well it wasn't very easy mentally for Tillman last year. Remember his daughter? This year he should and most likely will do better.



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  •  07-04-2009, 8:23 PM 1660759 in reply to 1660019

    Re: Tillman-Overated Payne-underated (probowl soon)

    DO STATS REFLECT THAT
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