I was just watching the end of yesterdays NFL Total Access - the episode where they report that the Chicago Bears are ranked 14th in their fan poll of "32 teams in 32 days".

In their closing statements "4-downs", they mentioned the worst trades in NFL history and there was a comment made about the Cutler trade.

Would you consider this trade as one of the worst in NFL history? And, if so, for what team?

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"Cutler will never be a great QB but he is serviceable. He will never lead a team to success but he can ride their coat tails. The same can be said for Orton, except that Orton maybe has a little more potential than Cutler. He too is serviceable and will not hold a good team back." - Disillusioned1 (I'll save this one)

Jay Cutler... You had me at "Ummm.. ya know..."

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Hershel Walker or Ricky Williams.

Probably the Walker trade.

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we cant tell if this was a bad trade yet. we gotta see things down the road. in my opinion, if we make it to the superbowl, then the trade was worth it to the bears. If the broncos picks pan out, then i guess it was worth it to them..so we dont really know yet

ursamajor07:

Hershel Walker or Ricky Williams.

Probably the Walker trade.

I had the same two in mind.  I don't think the Cutler trade will ever match these. 

 

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ursamajor07:

Hershel Walker or Ricky Williams.

Probably the Walker trade.

but the skins didnt do much with the picks for ricky williams...they did get arrington though..he was decent but not enough to make that trade genius...overall everybody envolved with that trade was not that good

BearsFanMike:

ursamajor07:

Hershel Walker or Ricky Williams.

Probably the Walker trade.

I had the same two in mind.  I don't think the Cutler trade will ever match these. 

 

Bears trading HOF bobby layne( started the run of bad qb'ing for 50 years) to the bulldogs Halas figured with sid and johnny lujak( who had thrown a  record 468 yard game that year) anf blanda he could afford to do that, Of course sid retired, lujack got hurt and halas and blanda never got along and was shipped out.. But amazing we had 3 HOF qb's on the roster at once  in sid, layne and blanda..only time in NFL history that happened

No. 11 overall pick for Rick Mirer.

As of today, our trade for Cutler is the BEST ever, no question about it!  Once play actually starts... one day (hopefully 10 years from now) people can argue with facts (or not) about where the trade actually fits in historical context.

Getting back to the original question, I think the Cutler trade was a pretty bone-head trade. But in my opinion, not for the Bears - it was a horrible trade for the Broncos.

However, I still don't think I would even rank it in the top10 in NFL history.

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"Cutler will never be a great QB but he is serviceable. He will never lead a team to success but he can ride their coat tails. The same can be said for Orton, except that Orton maybe has a little more potential than Cutler. He too is serviceable and will not hold a good team back." - Disillusioned1 (I'll save this one)

Jay Cutler... You had me at "Ummm.. ya know..."

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2nd for favre

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FormerDonkeyFan:

Getting back to the original question, I think the Cutler trade was a pretty bone-head trade. But in my opinion, not for the Bears - it was a horrible trade for the Broncos. However, I still don't think I would even rank it in the top10 in NFL history.

At this point, I agree.  Everything Denver's done since the disappointing end to their season last year has been questionable.  We'll see what happens with the players they chose/will choose with our picks and how great Cutler becomes as a Bear, but it definitely has the potential to be one of the worst trades (for Broncos) ever.

FormerDonkeyFan:

Getting back to the original question, I think the Cutler trade was a pretty bone-head trade. But in my opinion, not for the Bears - it was a horrible trade for the Broncos.

However, I still don't think I would even rank it in the top10 in NFL history.

Most would consider this trade to be a win-win, for both teams. Not sure how it could even be considered "Bad", let alone ranked as one of the worst.

BearsFanMike:

ursamajor07:

Hershel Walker or Ricky Williams.

Probably the Walker trade.

I had the same two in mind.  I don't think the Cutler trade will ever match these. 

 

We all know a RB is replaceable. There is no way either of them has as much value as Cutler (especially to the Bears with their QB history).

I don't think any trade will ever match the Cutler one. It is unthinkable to trade a young star QB in his prime.

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MDBear:

FormerDonkeyFan:

Getting back to the original question, I think the Cutler trade was a pretty bone-head trade. But in my opinion, not for the Bears - it was a horrible trade for the Broncos. However, I still don't think I would even rank it in the top10 in NFL history.

Most would consider this trade to be a win-win, for both teams. Not sure how it could even be considered "Bad", let alone ranked as one of the worst.

Well... Cutler could go on to a HOF, multiple SB, dynasty-type career with the Bears and Denver could easily struggle under McDaniels, draft bums with our picks and fall into a downward spiral that leads to another coaching change, multiple failed rebuilding efforts...

That scenario would probably make it the worst trade of all time from Denver's side.  I don't have much faith in McDaniels, so I think we'll end up the undisputed winner of the trade from the get-go and after all's said and done.  Maybe it won't be quite the boom/bust scenario laid out above, but hopefully something like that.

MDBear:

FormerDonkeyFan:

Getting back to the original question, I think the Cutler trade was a pretty bone-head trade. But in my opinion, not for the Bears - it was a horrible trade for the Broncos. However, I still don't think I would even rank it in the top10 in NFL history.

Most would consider this trade to be a win-win, for both teams. Not sure how it could even be considered "Bad", let alone ranked as one of the worst.

I agree it's not one of the worst ever (however if Cutler becomes a HOF qb and the 2 first rounders for Broncs bust and McD is fired after 2-3 years it sure could be).

But you don't trade away proven franchise QBs, you just don't, EVER! They are the hardest thing to find in all of sports. Just think of the time and investment they put in for the past 10-12 years trying to find, get, and develop a replacement for Elway...and after the countless man hours, millions and millions of dollars, years of frustration, they finally get him and poof....the new sheriff who's been in town for 5 minutes sends him packing.

Just imagine the Broncos scouts sitting down with McD after the trade and him saying "OK, we need to focus on finding a franchise QB this year with our extra 1st rounder", oh that would be classic.

Bears definately got the better end of the deal at this point in time. Maybe it will flip flop or even out in time, who knows, but you know the old saying about a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush.

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stoutman3:

Bears definately got the better end of the deal at this point in time. Maybe it will flip flop or even out in time, who knows, but you know the old saying about a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush.

Or in this case, a bird in the hand is worth a 2nd rate QB and 3 in the draft...lol

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"Cutler will never be a great QB but he is serviceable. He will never lead a team to success but he can ride their coat tails. The same can be said for Orton, except that Orton maybe has a little more potential than Cutler. He too is serviceable and will not hold a good team back." - Disillusioned1 (I'll save this one)

Jay Cutler... You had me at "Ummm.. ya know..."

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NFL total access had to be referring to the Broncos. Getting a franchise QB that is close to prime, has something to prove, and had success already in a one dimensional offense is well worth the risk. Honestly even if Cutler remains as good as he is now and doesn't develop into an elite QB he is still worth it.

This trade could possible make the bears into a dynasty, while the Broncos are guaranteed to be a mediocre team for years to come.

I think the Culter trade was a good trade for both teams. Sure he could go on to be a HOF QB, but one of the picks Devenr got could go on to be a HOF pick too. You can't judge trades five years after they occur. You have to judge them at the time they are made.

The Williams drade was just stupid.

bearsnb1:

NFL total access had to be referring to the Broncos. Getting a franchise QB that is close to prime, has something to prove, and had success already in a one dimensional offense is well worth the risk. Honestly even if Cutler remains as good as he is now and doesn't develop into an elite QB he is still worth it. This trade could possible make the bears into a dynasty, while the Broncos are guaranteed to be a mediocre team for years to come.

i would think he is elite if you take away the bonehead throws right?

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MilwaukeePhil:

I think the Culter trade was a good trade for both teams. Sure he could go on to be a HOF QB, but one of the picks Devenr got could go on to be a HOF pick too. You can't judge trades five years after they occur. You have to judge them at the time they are made.

The Williams drade was just stupid.

I see what your saying. But even if Denver got a stud or two thanks to the trade it still doesnt mean that the Broncos will be a good team. Having a franchise QB will win you super bowls, Denver will soon realize this. You can go up and down the league and find a couple of really good players on a team but still never get to the SB or even the playoffs. Bears are a good example of that.

This topic should not be about wether a player will be a HOFer, but rather what team made a stronger chance at winning a SB.

forte+orton:

bearsnb1:

NFL total access had to be referring to the Broncos. Getting a franchise QB that is close to prime, has something to prove, and had success already in a one dimensional offense is well worth the risk. Honestly even if Cutler remains as good as he is now and doesn't develop into an elite QB he is still worth it.

This trade could possible make the bears into a dynasty, while the Broncos are guaranteed to be a mediocre team for years to come.

i would think he is elite if you take away the bonehead throws right?

Right. Thats all mental maturity that hopefully he learns overtime .So he should be a top tier QB in a few years. Or maybe he will be a Brett Farve who was also elite. Farve is an exception I guess.

bearsnb1:

forte+orton:

bearsnb1:

NFL total access had to be referring to the Broncos. Getting a franchise QB that is close to prime, has something to prove, and had success already in a one dimensional offense is well worth the risk. Honestly even if Cutler remains as good as he is now and doesn't develop into an elite QB he is still worth it. This trade could possible make the bears into a dynasty, while the Broncos are guaranteed to be a mediocre team for years to come.

i would think he is elite if you take away the bonehead throws right?

Right. Thats all mental maturity that hopefully he learns overtime .So he should be a top tier QB in a few years. Or maybe he will be a Brett Farve who was also elite. Farve is an exception I guess.

hes the first qb that we have IN A VERY LONG TIME that can in all in one play, roll out (without getting sacked), turn, rocket the ball down the field, and put it EXACTLY on the money

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Meat:

No. 11 overall pick for Rick Mirer.

As of today, our trade for Cutler is the BEST ever, no question about it!  Once play actually starts... one day (hopefully 10 years from now) people can argue with facts (or not) about where the trade actually fits in historical context.

I think Wanny trading a 1st round pick for Rick Mirer is one of the worst trades ever! It would have been nice to have Walter Jones for the last 11 seasons. They should still be laughing about that one in Seattle.

God I hate Wanny!

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FormerDonkeyFan:

I was just watching the end of yesterdays NFL Total Access - the episode where they report that the Chicago Bears are ranked 14th in their fan poll of "32 teams in 32 days". In their closing statements "4-downs", they mentioned the worst trades in NFL history and there was a comment made about the Cutler trade. Would you consider this trade as one of the worst in NFL history? And, if so, for what team?

OK.

Steve Young was traded to the 49ers, the 49ers gave up a 2nd and 4th round pics which were used on Winston Moss and Bruce Hill, Moss played 4 years for the Bucs and Hill played and Hill played 5 and then never played football again. The Bucs believed Young was tradeable because they drafted Vinny Testaverde.

John Elway was traded to the Broncos from the Colts for Mark Hermann, Chris Hinton and a 1st RD pick that they used on Ron Solt