Mods, can you please sticky on the Front page- It will be the main discussion for months and will save alot of threads/fights if have it on top and not have to go searching for. This year going to break into 3 different sections, 2008 cap and all 53 players Contracts, free agent signings and bears firings and potential cap ramifications and rules. All #'s subject to change and verifiable information
Updated 09/21/2008
Name............... Base salary......Signing bonus(amortized) ......Other bonus(roster etc)........ Total
1.Adams, A $800,000 $250,000 - $1,050,000
2.Anderson ,M $445,000 $39,000 - $484,000
4. Beekman,J $370,000 $97,500 - $467,500
5.Bennett,E $295,000 $205,000 ---- $500,000
6. booker, M $950,000 $750,000 50,000 $1,750,000
7. Buenning $800,000 - $800,000
8. Bowman, $285,000 40,000 - $325,000
9. briggs, L $805,000 $667,000 $4,000,000 $5,472,000
10. Brown,Alex $605,000 $2,350,000 - $2,9550,000
11 .Brown,M $950,000 $833,333 *$1,490,000 $1,783,333
12. Clark,D $1,000,000 $1,667,000 $475,000 $2,667,000
13. Davis, R $520,000 $366,667 $50,000 $936,667
14. Davis K $295,000 $41,088 - $336,000
15. Dvoracek,D $455,000 $187,500 - $632,500
16.Forte, M $295,000 $382,500 $528,167 $1,205,600
17.Garza,R $730,000 $583,000 - $1,313,000
18 .Gould, R $520,000 - *$2,104,000 $2,624,000
*19. Graham, C $370,000 $37,500 - $407,500
20. Grossman,R $1,400,000 $1,500,000 $1,600,000 $4,500,000
21. Harris,T $975,000 $4,525,000 1,000,000 - $6,5000,000
22. Harrison,M $295,000 $172,500 - $467,500
23. Hester,D $445,000 $1,059,750 - $1,504,750
24. Hillenmeyer,H $1,450,000 $1,000,000 - $2,450,000
25. Idonije,I $1,500,000 $400,000 - $1,900,000
26. Jones, K $605,000 ( vet exception) - - $445,000
27. Kreutz,Olin $2,333,000 $3,000,000 - $5,333,000
28.Llyod, B $485,000 $485,000
29. Mannelly,P $770,000 $93,000 - $863,000
30. Manning, D $445,000 $400,000 - $845,000
31. Maynard,B $925,000 $360,000 - $1,285,000
32. Mcbride,T $370,000 $13,750 - $383,750
33. McGlover, D $520,000 -- - $520,000
34. McGowan,B. $1,412,000 $1,412,000
35. Mckie, J $605,000 $250,000 - $855,000
36. Metcalf, T $900,000 $583,000 - $1,482,000
37. Miller, fred $781,000 $40,000 - $821,000
37 Ogunleye,A $4,700,000 $2,500,000 - $7,200,000
38. Olsen,G $370,000 $50,000 $4,025,000 $4,445,000
39. Orton,K $1,300,000 $814,500 $100,000 $2,214,500
40. Payne. K $370,000 $37,500 - $407,500
41. Peterson,A $605,000 $333,333 - $938,333
42. Polite,L $520,000 - - $520,000
43 .St. Clair,J $750,000 $250,000 - $1,000,000
44. Stelz, C $295,000 $111,250 - $406,500
45. Tait, J $4,600,000 $2,333,333 - $6,933,333
46. Tillman,C $750,000 $2,570,000 - $3,321,000
*47. Toeaina,M $370,000 ?? - $370,000
48. Urlacher, B $4,950,000 $3,667,000 - $8,616,667
49. Vasher, N $750,000 $1,900,000 $2,500,000 $5,150,000
50. Williams,J $445,000 $103,000 - $548,000
51. Willima , C $295,000 $100,000 $1,126,000 $1,521,000
52. Wilson, R $520,000 ? - $520,000
53. Wolfe,G $370,000 $155,000 - $525,00
53a laroquq,J $295,000 $10,000 - $305,0000 ----------
TOTAL $102,400,499
LBTE's not earned $1,700,000
* Unamortized cap hits $14,185,000
salary cap $116,729,000
Room left $2.135 mill
* mike brown- $1.49 mill unlikely to be earned incentives( reworked deal)
* robbie gould-$2 mill roster bonus, 100K workout, 4K reporting
(A) Laroque Activated for mcgowan(IR)
ROOKIE POOL- $5.791 mil ($5.78 mill used up)
1. Kellen Davis- 4 years $1.8 mill, $167,954 SB $295,000 salary- $336K cap #
2. Erwin baldwin- TBA $295,000 salary
3. Chester Adams- TBA, $295,000 salary
4. Joey Laroque- TBA $295,000 salary
5. Kirk Barton- TBA $295,000 salary
6.Marcus Monk- TBA $295,000 salary
7. Craig steltz- 4 yrs $445,907 Sb- $295,000 Salary - $406,500 cap #
8. Marcus harrison- 4 years $2.3 mill, 690,000 SB 295 K sal=$467,500 cap
9.Zach Bowman- 4 years $1.95 mill, 295K SB, 295 Sal=$368.750 cap
10. Earl bennett- 4 years $3 mill, $820 K SB $295 Sal= $500,00 cap
11. Matt forte- 4 years 3.7 mill, 2 mill guarnatees $295,000 salary 2008 1.533,333 Signing bonus, $528,167 UTBE incentive cap # $678,250 with $528,167 UTBE
12. Chris williams- $16 mill , 9.2 mill Guaranteed, $295,000 sal
cap #= $295,000+ $100K Sb + $1.126 mill Rb= $1,521,000 cap #
Free Agents Signed/ Bears players cut:
1.RB Pope signed to futures deal ---
Running back P.J. Pope became the fourth player to sign a futures contract on Monday.
The Sun-Times reported earlier that guards Tyler Reed and Mike Jones and safety Leonard Peters were going to sign reserve/future deals.
2.Glenn Pakulak- P, signed him to a reserve/future contract on Tuesday.
Bears Players SIGNED
1. Alex brown-2 year extension, $15 million added- $5 million Signing bonus( $1.25 cap hit 2008), 2010- $5 million, 20111- $5.5 million
2. Rex Grossman- 1 year contract, $1.4 mill SB + 100K wokout ronus 1.5 mill salary, $1.5 mill LTBE incentives=$4.5 million cap hit
3. Dez Clark- 2 year extension( 2010)- $5 million, 2 million Sb upfront $475 Rb
4. kyle orton-$1.4 million signing bonus+$100,000 workout bonus +$1.3 million base salary
5. Brandon Mcgowan- $1.412 million - 1 year RFA tender
6. Rashied Davis- 3 years, $3.5 mill, 1.1 mill SB
*7. Brandon Llyod- $605,000 salary, $40,000 workout, costs $485,000 cap space vet exception
8. Lance briggs- $36 mill/6yrs- $21.6 first 3 yrs, 2008- 4 Mill Sb, $3.75 Rb,$805,000 sal, 250K Workout
9. marty booker- $3.5 mill/2 years- 1.5 mill Sb, $950,000 salary, $1 mill 2009, $50,000 workout 2008
10.Robbie gould- $15.5 mill/5 year Extension- $4.25 mill SB, 2008 460,000 salary
11.: tommie harris Signed a four-year, $40 million contract extension through 2012.
12. Kevin jones -1 year $605,000 contract, vet exception $455,00 cap #
12. Brian Urlacher- $18 mill extension, 6 Mill SB 1 mill Yearly Bump in salary
13. Devin hester- $40 mill- 6 years through 2013( $18 mill incentives)
14. fred miller- 1 year $781,000 sal. $40,000 Sb= $821,0000
Bears Players Cut:
** now assuming Angelo used the vet exception to move the bonus over 2 years.. moose and griese
Becomes..
Darwin walker saves $ 4.56 million
Fred miller saves 5.7 mill- 2.4 mill= $3.3 mill
Muhsin Muhammand saves $3.1 mill- 1.5 mill= $1.6 mill ( $1.5 mill dead space for 2009)
griese $2.6 million - $1.35 mill = $1.25 mill saved( 1.35 mill dead space 2009)
Adam Arch $2 mill( Sb)- 1.73 mill= $270,000 cost to cut
Cedric benson- 3.395 mill-2.575 mill=$820,000 saved ( $2.575 mill dead space 2009)
RMJ- $100,000 roster bonus
Bauzin-$573,000 unamrotized cap
M. okwo- $461,000 unamortized cap
Bowman- $295,000 unamortized cap
* 2008 unamortized cap hits and rookie cap breakdown..
cap hits:
Becomes..( bears can designate 2 vets cut before june 1st.. split Cap hit Over 2 years)
walker saves $ 4.56 million - $2.4 mill in dead space 2008 = $2.16 mill
miller saves 5.7 mill- 2.4. mill dead space = $3.3 mill
*grise saves 2.7 mill- 1.35 dead space= 1.35 mill dead space 2008 ( $1.35 dead space 2009)
* moose saves $3.1 mill- 1.5 mill= $1.6 mill ( $1.5 mill dead space for 2008, 2009)
arch 2 mill unamort sb no dead space for 2009
Cedric benson- 3.395 mill-2.4 mill=$820,000 saved ( $2.575 mill dead space 2009)
Bowman- $295,000 signing bonus
total cap hit $14.15 mill 2008... $5.425 mill dead space 2009
Rookie pool $5.791 million and breakdown
1. Kellen Davis- 4 years $1.8 mill, $167,954 SB
2. Erwin baldwin- TBA
3. Chester Adams- TBA
4. Joey Laroque- TBA
5. Kirk Barton- TBA
6.Marcus Monk- TBA
7. Craig steltz- 4 yrs
Kreutz, Tait, Muhammed, Miller, Manning Jr. and Archuletta make me sick. Literally. All of these guys are 100% DONE. Yet cutting them doesn't look like an option due to their ridiculous signing bonuses.
Then you have the Benson number displayed. Not to mention Walker.... WHO better be cut!
This is horrible.
What do the astrisks mean?
navy&orange:DB, I don't see Mike Brown on your list.
thanks!, fixed, thought we were more like $ 20-21 mill under. Now it looks better good catch N/O!
Astrisk mean player has LTBE's in contract that are hard to figure..
and rabih please take the whining down 10 notches, all 32 teams have some players overpaid/underperforming.. its a non-starter.
dbears54: Potential cap hits: 1. Brian Griese- $2.7 million ( unamortized bonus left)- 1.4 mill ( salary)- 300,000( roster bonus)= 1 million in cap space to cut 2. Darwin walker- 2.4 mill( unamortized bonus)-1.15 mill(salary)-$5.2 mill Rb)=Saves 1.65 mill to cut 3. Moose- 3mill( Sb)- 1.6 mill Salary- 500K Rb= 900,000 in cap space to cut 4. Fred miller- 2.2 Mill( Sb)- 4 mill salary = Saves $1.8 million to cut
Potential cap hits:
1. Brian Griese- $2.7 million ( unamortized bonus left)- 1.4 mill ( salary)- 300,000( roster bonus)= 1 million in cap space to cut
2. Darwin walker- 2.4 mill( unamortized bonus)-1.15 mill(salary)-$5.2 mill Rb)=Saves 1.65 mill to cut
3. Moose- 3mill( Sb)- 1.6 mill Salary- 500K Rb= 900,000 in cap space to cut
4. Fred miller- 2.2 Mill( Sb)- 4 mill salary = Saves $1.8 million to cut
Wouldn't it save us $3.95M to cut Walker? (2.4 hits the cap - 1.15 salary saved - 5.2 bonus saved = 3.95 saved)
Phipsi:i think you should add adam archuleta to that list.... it would take us away 270.000 from our cap space...
Just added, thanks, but his "cap hit" is $1.27 million to cut..
MilBear: dbears54: Potential cap hits: 1. Brian Griese- $2.7 million ( unamortized bonus left)- 1.4 mill ( salary)- 300,000( roster bonus)= 1 million in cap space to cut 2. Darwin walker- 2.4 mill( unamortized bonus)-1.15 mill(salary)-$5.2 mill Rb)=Saves 1.65 mill to cut 3. Moose- 3mill( Sb)- 1.6 mill Salary- 500K Rb= 900,000 in cap space to cut 4. Fred miller- 2.2 Mill( Sb)- 4 mill salary = Saves $1.8 million to cut Wouldn't it save us $3.95M to cut Walker? (2.4 hits the cap - 1.15 salary saved - 5.2 bonus saved = 3.95 saved)
Yep, fixed.. see what happens when you stare are cap #'s for 4 hours to do this thread?.. you forget the easy stuff...
dbears54: MilBear: dbears54: Potential cap hits: 1. Brian Griese- $2.7 million ( unamortized bonus left)- 1.4 mill ( salary)- 300,000( roster bonus)= 1 million in cap space to cut 2. Darwin walker- 2.4 mill( unamortized bonus)-1.15 mill(salary)-$5.2 mill Rb)=Saves 1.65 mill to cut 3. Moose- 3mill( Sb)- 1.6 mill Salary- 500K Rb= 900,000 in cap space to cut 4. Fred miller- 2.2 Mill( Sb)- 4 mill salary = Saves $1.8 million to cut Wouldn't it save us $3.95M to cut Walker? (2.4 hits the cap - 1.15 salary saved - 5.2 bonus saved = 3.95 saved) Yep, fixed.. see what happens when you stare are cap #'s for 4 hours to do this thread?.. you forget the easy stuff...
thanks for the thread, it's really helpful... where do you come up with the information on each player? Also, not to make more work for you but I think it would also be helpful to add in parentheses how many years left they have on their contract after their annual amortization to find the total unamortized amount that would go against the cap if cut... although you took care of the big ones in the post right below it. Might not be worth it but thanks again!
MilBear: dbears54: MilBear: dbears54: Potential cap hits: 1. Brian Griese- $2.7 million ( unamortized bonus left)- 1.4 mill ( salary)- 300,000( roster bonus)= 1 million in cap space to cut 2. Darwin walker- 2.4 mill( unamortized bonus)-1.15 mill(salary)-$5.2 mill Rb)=Saves 1.65 mill to cut 3. Moose- 3mill( Sb)- 1.6 mill Salary- 500K Rb= 900,000 in cap space to cut 4. Fred miller- 2.2 Mill( Sb)- 4 mill salary = Saves $1.8 million to cut Wouldn't it save us $3.95M to cut Walker? (2.4 hits the cap - 1.15 salary saved - 5.2 bonus saved = 3.95 saved) Yep, fixed.. see what happens when you stare are cap #'s for 4 hours to do this thread?.. you forget the easy stuff... thanks for the thread, it's really helpful... where do you come up with the information on each player?
thanks for the thread, it's really helpful... where do you come up with the information on each player?
that's the "royal pain in the neck".. it comes from the NFLPA site, articles from trib/suntimes/espn/usa etc.. you have to kind of take many different sources to figure it out( and many have them wrong) and try and back out #'s to figure Signing bonuses, and roster bonuses..