Maybe I was a little naive, but I thought that the Utah's thrashing of Alabama (their second BCS bowl win and 2nd undefeated season in 5 years) would force some significant changes to made to the BCS system. Now talk of altering the BCS system has died down. What is it going to take to change this system?

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From what I understand, they don't want to have to deal with the NFL if they institute playoffs.

Nobody likes the BCS at all, I don't really get it either.

a bullet to its head, but seeing as it doesn't have a head it's going to be tormenting us forever.

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Talk isn't there because the season isn't going on yet... the only way it will be stopped is if they stop trying to eliminate the bowls in general... that screws too many schools and businesses from money.

If they realize just change the BCS to be it's own tournament and maybe make it 1 or 2 games bigger to work, then its a less issue... there would still be a complaint of teams not getting in, but they have the same thing with March Madness, so it shows it works.

Savviest:

Maybe I was a little naive, but I thought that the Utah's thrashing of Alabama (their second BCS bowl win and 2nd undefeated season in 5 years) would force some significant changes to made to the BCS system. Now talk of altering the BCS system has died down. What is it going to take to change this system?

nothings going to change

i thoughtt there was some big contract that was signed so................

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Notre Dame with a 8-4 record getting whooped again..74-0 for the Dorito's Feista Bowl Championship by North Dakota State...might do it...

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I hate that there isn't a true champion in college football. It's ridiculous that there are undefeated teams not considered champions. I love college football but I will not go to a bowl game for that reason.

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how many bowls do their have to be anyways?

i think when we every team playe in a bowl every year it should be good.LMAO

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ur exactly right even if they do institute playoffs there will always be team complaining that thye didnt make it in while it would add some ore of a thrill to college football it wuld also give more non BCS schools to be in a bowl game so overall i think a plaoff would be better for college football

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ur exactly right even if they do institute playoffs there will always be team complaining that thye didnt make it in while it would add some ore of a thrill to college football it wuld also give more non BCS schools to be in a bowl game so overall i think a plaoff would be better for college football

even obama wants playoffs!

come on BCS get it right

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IF Obama wants a playoff..... Then I am against it.....

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IF Obama wants a playoff..... Then I am against it.....

ESPN interviewed Obama and McCain when they were running and asked each what they would like to see changed in sports, McCain copped out and said performance enhancers(against the law, duh) Obama said there needs to be a college football playoff.

as to the OP, senate investigation might do it lol, I hope so any Division 1 team thats undefeated needs the chance to prove themselves, i mean utah did beat alabama worse than florida

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tdndenver:

IF Obama wants a playoff..... Then I am against it.....

Lmao, he was talking about it during the superbowl

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I actually like the BCS, I don't really care about not having a playoff.

whether there is a playoff sysem or not, people/teams will be complaining just as much as they are now.  just think about it...there is 4 bcs bowl games and a bcs championship.  thats 10 teams altogether.  the teams that have great records that dont make it into those bowl games complain.  but, if you make it a playoff system, how many teams will make it???  16 max.  then the teams that have great records out of the top 16 will complain. 

same thing will happen with a playoff system as the bcs.  the top teams now (florida, texas, lsu, osu, etc.) will all be favored to be placed in the top 16 over teams like utah, boise state, etc. and those teams will complain.

also, if only 16 teams make the playoffs, that leaves 52 teams that would have made a bowl game out of even having anything to look forward to after the regular season is over.

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whether there is a playoff sysem or not, people/teams will be complaining just as much as they are now.  just think about it...there is 4 bcs bowl games and a bcs championship.  thats 10 teams altogether.  the teams that have great records that dont make it into those bowl games complain.  but, if you make it a playoff system, how many teams will make it???  16 max.  then the teams that have great records out of the top 16 will complain. 

same thing will happen with a playoff system as the bcs.  the top teams now (florida, texas, lsu, osu, etc.) will all be favored to be placed in the top 16 over teams like utah, boise state, etc. and those teams will complain.

also, if only 16 teams make the playoffs, that leaves 52 teams that would have made a bowl game out of even having anything to look forward to after the regular season is over.

Completely agree with u. How culd u forget Bama on that short list they have looked like the best team in the nation so far becuase i think that florida is somewhat overrated this year

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pd1dish:

whether there is a playoff sysem or not, people/teams will be complaining just as much as they are now.  just think about it...there is 4 bcs bowl games and a bcs championship.  thats 10 teams altogether.  the teams that have great records that dont make it into those bowl games complain.  but, if you make it a playoff system, how many teams will make it???  16 max.  then the teams that have great records out of the top 16 will complain. 

same thing will happen with a playoff system as the bcs.  the top teams now (florida, texas, lsu, osu, etc.) will all be favored to be placed in the top 16 over teams like utah, boise state, etc. and those teams will complain.

also, if only 16 teams make the playoffs, that leaves 52 teams that would have made a bowl game out of even having anything to look forward to after the regular season is over.

Completely agree with u. How culd u forget Bama on that short list they have looked like the best team in the nation so far becuase i think that florida is somewhat overrated this year

It's very simple win your conference and you're in.  They don't even have to get rid of the bowls every playoff game can be a bowl in the sense that they are now, with the Rose Bowl still being the end all be all.  March madness is the about the only time i really start paying attention to college hoops with football it's exactly the opposite after the conference champs are crowned there's not much else to watch for except for the championship game where they crown a champ who only proved themselves against one of the 4-6 undefeated schools in the nation.  The rest of the bowl games are meaningless.

The only thing that will finish off the BCS is some kind of antitrust litigation brought by the smaller schools from "Non-BCS conferences."  Outside of that, there's too much money tied up in the bowl system to change things.

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pd1dish:

whether there is a playoff sysem or not, people/teams will be complaining just as much as they are now.  just think about it...there is 4 bcs bowl games and a bcs championship.  thats 10 teams altogether.  the teams that have great records that dont make it into those bowl games complain.  but, if you make it a playoff system, how many teams will make it???  16 max.  then the teams that have great records out of the top 16 will complain. 

same thing will happen with a playoff system as the bcs.  the top teams now (florida, texas, lsu, osu, etc.) will all be favored to be placed in the top 16 over teams like utah, boise state, etc. and those teams will complain.

also, if only 16 teams make the playoffs, that leaves 52 teams that would have made a bowl game out of even having anything to look forward to after the regular season is over.

Completely agree with u. How culd u forget Bama on that short list they have looked like the best team in the nation so far becuase i think that florida is somewhat overrated this year

It's very simple win your conference and you're in.  They don't even have to get rid of the bowls every playoff game can be a bowl in the sense that they are now, with the Rose Bowl still being the end all be all.  March madness is the about the only time i really start paying attention to college hoops with football it's exactly the opposite after the conference champs are crowned there's not much else to watch for except for the championship game where they crown a champ who only proved themselves against one of the 4-6 undefeated schools in the nation.  The rest of the bowl games are meaningless.

that would be a terrible idea.  there are conferences where the top 3 or 4 teams are better than the best team of another (SEC and MAC).  the SEC has florida, bama, lsu, south carolina, auburn, hell id prolly put the entire SEC over the 2 teams that are leading in the MAC: Temple, Central Michigan.  and id say the same thing about the big 10.  osu, michigan, wisconsin, iowa, purdue, penn state.  then like i said above, those teams would complain about not making it when overall, they are ranked in the top 15 and a team like Temple wins the conference and makes it into the playoffs with a 0% chance to win them.  playoffs just wont work and bcs doesnt work

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pd1dish:

whether there is a playoff sysem or not, people/teams will be complaining just as much as they are now.  just think about it...there is 4 bcs bowl games and a bcs championship.  thats 10 teams altogether.  the teams that have great records that dont make it into those bowl games complain.  but, if you make it a playoff system, how many teams will make it???  16 max.  then the teams that have great records out of the top 16 will complain. 

same thing will happen with a playoff system as the bcs.  the top teams now (florida, texas, lsu, osu, etc.) will all be favored to be placed in the top 16 over teams like utah, boise state, etc. and those teams will complain.

also, if only 16 teams make the playoffs, that leaves 52 teams that would have made a bowl game out of even having anything to look forward to after the regular season is over.

Completely agree with u. How culd u forget Bama on that short list they have looked like the best team in the nation so far becuase i think that florida is somewhat overrated this year

but that just reinforces my point on how those teams would get favored.  everyone has jumped on the florida bandwagon and is biased towards florida.  they are favored in the bcs rankings, and it would be the same for a playoff system.

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Sheptdc1:

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pd1dish:

whether there is a playoff sysem or not, people/teams will be complaining just as much as they are now.  just think about it...there is 4 bcs bowl games and a bcs championship.  thats 10 teams altogether.  the teams that have great records that dont make it into those bowl games complain.  but, if you make it a playoff system, how many teams will make it???  16 max.  then the teams that have great records out of the top 16 will complain. 

same thing will happen with a playoff system as the bcs.  the top teams now (florida, texas, lsu, osu, etc.) will all be favored to be placed in the top 16 over teams like utah, boise state, etc. and those teams will complain.

also, if only 16 teams make the playoffs, that leaves 52 teams that would have made a bowl game out of even having anything to look forward to after the regular season is over.

Completely agree with u. How culd u forget Bama on that short list they have looked like the best team in the nation so far becuase i think that florida is somewhat overrated this year

It's very simple win your conference and you're in.  They don't even have to get rid of the bowls every playoff game can be a bowl in the sense that they are now, with the Rose Bowl still being the end all be all.  March madness is the about the only time i really start paying attention to college hoops with football it's exactly the opposite after the conference champs are crowned there's not much else to watch for except for the championship game where they crown a champ who only proved themselves against one of the 4-6 undefeated schools in the nation.  The rest of the bowl games are meaningless.

that would be a terrible idea.  there are conferences where the top 3 or 4 teams are better than the best team of another (SEC and MAC).  the SEC has florida, bama, lsu, south carolina, auburn, hell id prolly put the entire SEC over the 2 teams that are leading in the MAC: Temple, Central Michigan.  and id say the same thing about the big 10.  osu, michigan, wisconsin, iowa, purdue, penn state.  then like i said above, those teams would complain about not making it when overall, they are ranked in the top 15 and a team like Temple wins the conference and makes it into the playoffs with a 0% chance to win them.  playoffs just wont work and bcs doesnt work

At first, yes the parity won't be there because of the way the current system affects recruiting.  All it would take is for one "weak" program to knock off one of these BCS powerhouses and the perception that you have to go to the big conferences to play for a national championship will change maybe not by a lot, but it would get there eventually.  We have already seen big programs fall to smaller programs in basketball( George Mason's tourney run of a few years ago) and in football (Michigan-Appalachian St.) and we have seen small programs turn in to perennial contenders in basketball (Memphis University among others).  And as we have seen many times in the b-ball tourney sometimes just getting there is enough for some teams they get the exposure and the money that comes with tourney bids and once you get to the tourney anyhting can happen.

My playoff idea:

There are 11 conferences in what is now called FBS.  Give those conference champions automatic berths.

Keep the BCS standings as is done now.  At the end of the regular season, the 5 highest rated teams in the BCS standings that did not win a conference get at-large bids.  This is so teams like the SEC/ Big 12 powerhouse teams mentioned before, and Notre Dame, have a chance to get in, avoiding most of the problems brought up earlier in this thread.  This will yield a 16-team playoff.

Seed the teams based on their BCS rankings, and play the thing out.

The bowl games could still be played.  These would become roughly akin to the NIT in basketball, for teams who had good regular seasons, but not good enough to make the playoffs.

 

The small schools get their shot, the big conferences get the lion's share of the playoff spots, a crapload of revenue is generated, and a true national champion is crowned on the field.  Everybody happy.  I would, however, advocate cutting the 12th regular season game.  A team would only play a 12th game if they played a conference championship game.

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I think the BCS could fall this year is Iowa goes undefeated and does not make the National Championship. Think about it a big ten team going undefeated and not getting in Imagine if there name was ohio state or michigan they would still be in the hunt with one loss it is rediculis how bias the polls are to big name schools like usc they lost to washington for christ sakes and then those polls go and effect the bcs polls its bs look at the computer rankings they make way more sense

BCS will get some major pressure this year when/if Oregon gets a High bowl bid and Boise gets shut out, after punking them in Oregon's only game with they're starting RB

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