In what looks to be a very flawed NFC North — with the Vikings waiting for the latest chapter of the Brett Favre saga to unfold, the Packers not looking real comfortable at the moment with their conversion to a 3-4 defense, and the Lions arguably coming off the worst performance in league history — I could see the Bears winning a division title.

Barely.

But not a Super Bowl. Keeping with this column’s emphasis on Cutler, here are six good reasons:

I — Who’s going to catch Cutler’s passes? Bears head coach Lovie Smith continues to say with a straight face that Hester is a “legitimate No. 1 receiver,” but the consensus among daily team observers is that Hester remains a major work in progress. Although he did make some legitimate strides down the stretch last season, Hester’s continuing development could be hindered by a mostly unproven supporting cast, led by second-year pro Earl Bennett. Bennett looks a lot better, but his inability as a third-round rookie to make any kind of an impact at the team’s weakest position last season remains cause for concern. Rookies Juaquin Iglesias and Johnny Knox and veteran Rashied Davis complete a unit that could be keeping Angelo awake well into the night, as he seriously ponders the possibility of adding ex-Giant Plaxico Burress and his impressive 15.5 yards-per-catch career to the mix, the obvious risks nothwithstanding.

II — Safety issues hard to ignore. Start with the fact that the Bears’ most experienced safety by a wide margin is newcomer Josh Bullocks, who lost his starting roie in New Orleans last season and was so shaky that he showed up on a YouTube clip demonstrating how not to play the position. The Bears are hoping Corey Graham can make a successful conversion from cornerback to free safety, where his physical style could be well-suited for the position, but such experimentation hardly creates a comfort zone. It’s also worth noting that ’08 starting SS Kevin Payne is coming off shoulder surgery. But perhaps the biggest concern is the leadership at the position, which will be seriously diminished by the departure of Mike Brown, who has moved on to Kansas City. Yes, Brown had big problems staying healthy, but he was almost always effective when he was able to play.

III — D-line brittle in the middle. Even Rod Marinelli, the undisputed dean of D-line coaches, could be challenged to the max by a pair of injury-plagued starting tackles — Tommie Harris and Dusty Dvoracek — who are being counted on to exert a great deal more interior pressure up front than they did last season, when the Bears ranked 29th in QB sack percentage. A free-flowing rotation inside, including underrated Anthony Adams, promising second-year pro Marcus Harrison and rookie Jarron Gilbert, could help preserve Harris, whose left knee hasn’t been right since he suffered a grade-2 MCL sprain in his left knee in Week Three two seasons ago, and Dvoracek, who has been sidelined with injuries more often than not in his three years at the pro level.

IV — Potential chaos on the corners. The Bears are guaranteed to be nothing more than a passing fancy in ’09 if their pass defense performs as sloppily as it did last season, when it routinely gave up inside position on slant patterns and kept leaving a ridiculous amount of cushion for opposing receivers at the worst possible times. Former Pro Bowler Nate Vasher has greatly underachieved since signing a five-year, $28 million deal before the ’07 season, playing in only 12 of 32 games and intercepting only two passes. He says he’s feeling much healthier, but that remains to be seen. Same goes for fellow starting CB Charles Tillman, who was plagued by injuries to both shoulders last season and was responsible for perhaps the ’08 defense’s low point, when he allowed Bernard Berrian’s 99-yard TD reception in a 34-14 prime-time loss to the Vikings. 

V — Perilous protection. Cutler’s excellent escapability — he was sacked only 11 times last season — will make him much less of a sack target than Kyle Orton, but the starting tackles in front of him come equipped with noteworthy issues. Granted, OLT Orlando Pace is a distinguished seven-time Pro Bowler who sticks out like the Sears Tower. But he’s also 33 years old and has missed 25 games over the past three seasons due to assorted injuries. At right tackle, former first-round draft pick Chris Williams remains an unproven commodity, having seen limited action in his rookie campaign after suffering a back injury on the second day of training camp that eventually required surgery.    

VI — Show me the backups. Smith is going to have to pray for the same kind of good luck enjoyed by his good buddy Dungy, who never was forced to get by without Peyton Manning for an extended period of time. Is Smith really serious when he says he would be comfortable with either Brett Basanez or Caleb Hanie taking over under center if, God forbid, Cutler got cut down even for a few games? Those guys make the Cubs’ bullpen look worthy of Cooperstown.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/06/30/cutler-makes-bears-better-but-not-best

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ROLL ON THUNDER
SHINE ON LIGHTNING
THE DAYS ARE LONG
AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"

Thanks a lot, IHTB.  I was looking forward to the season, but now that I know we have no chance at a Super Bowl, why bother?  My life is over.

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Dear Ron Turner:

We have our franchise QB now. Please don't screw this season up. We are counting on you.

Sincerely,

Bears fans

BearsFanMike:

.... My life is over.

By this standard, your life was over at birth.....no superbowls on the horizon, ever, even in the last 40 years....so your life has been over for a long long time.

With that happy note.

Cheers.

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2009 Green Bay Packers finish 11-5, sweeping the Bears. Aaron Rodgers finishes season with higher QB rating than Jay Cutler, Bears finish no higher than 8-8.

Is Jay Cutler the next Uncle Rico?

1950's 0 Championships, Bears Suck
1960's 1 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 5 Championships
1970's 0 Championships, Bears Suck
1980's 1 Championship, Bears Suck
1990's 0 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 1 Championship
2000's 0 Championships, Bears, still Sucking after all these years

In wardi's lifetime, Packers 6 Championships, Bears 2...Packers lead series by 15 games in wardi's lifetime....

Cheers

wardisback:

BearsFanMike:

.... My life is over.

By this standard, your life was over at birth.....no superbowls on the horizon, ever, even in the last 40 years....so your life has been over for a long long time.

With that happy note.

Cheers.

No Super Bowls in the last 40 years?  Are you a math major, Wardi?

How many years ago was 1985?

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Dear Ron Turner:

We have our franchise QB now. Please don't screw this season up. We are counting on you.

Sincerely,

Bears fans

click on the link and read the response to that article. It shows why the logic of this writer is flawed. It says what every Bears fan should know. We won 9 games last year. We lost 2 in the final minutes that we should have won, with one being by an absolute fluke play. We DID improve our team. We SHOULD win more games. If you win more than 9 games, you likely will be in the playoffs. And if you are in the playoffs, you have a chance...Get it?

I'mOnDrugs:

click on the link and read the response to that article. It shows why the logic of this writer is flawed. It says what every Bears fan should know. We won 9 games last year. We lost 2 in the final minutes that we should have won, with one being by an absolute fluke play. We DID improve our team. We SHOULD win more games. If you win more than 9 games, you likely will be in the playoffs. And if you are in the playoffs, you have a chance...Get it?

Actually if the writer is flawed, then the response is equally flawed. Could the Bears have won two more games? Sure. But they also could have lost four games in which they won by four points or less. Call it a draw. And how can he accuse the writer of drawing conclusions based on hypothetical situations when he himself does the same thing?

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ROLL ON THUNDER
SHINE ON LIGHTNING
THE DAYS ARE LONG
AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"

IHATETHEBEARS:

I'mOnDrugs:

click on the link and read the response to that article. It shows why the logic of this writer is flawed. It says what every Bears fan should know. We won 9 games last year. We lost 2 in the final minutes that we should have won, with one being by an absolute fluke play. We DID improve our team. We SHOULD win more games. If you win more than 9 games, you likely will be in the playoffs. And if you are in the playoffs, you have a chance...Get it?

Actually if the writer is flawed, then the response is equally flawed. Could the Bears have won two more games? Sure. But they also could have lost four games in which they won by four points or less. Call it a draw. And how can he accuse the writer of drawing conclusions based on hypothetical situations when he himself does the same thing?

most seasons winning the SB is more than just raw talent... its staying healthy and getting hot at teh right time


but, there is a minimal threshold of talent a team needs to have a chance (in most seasons)


I do belive the Bears are at that threshold... now, am I saying we'll do it... probably not, after all, lots has to roll just right... but I do think we have the talent if the team stays healthy and gets hot at teh right time

by contrast, I think the Vikings and Packers are below that threshold of talent

I think the Vikings talent level at this point is well above the Bears.

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ROLL ON THUNDER
SHINE ON LIGHTNING
THE DAYS ARE LONG
AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"

BearsFanMike:

wardisback:

BearsFanMike:

.... My life is over.

By this standard, your life was over at birth.....no superbowls on the horizon, ever, even in the last 40 years....so your life has been over for a long long time.

With that happy note.

Cheers.

No Super Bowls in the last 40 years?  Are you a math major, Wardi?

How many years ago was 1985?

Wardi can't count, because he is mentally challenged. Poor little guy. LOL

1.....2.....4.....8.....3.....10....

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PACKER FANS RIDE ON THE SHORT BUS!!!

Is that your face? Or did your neck puke?

IHATETHEBEARS:

I think the Vikings talent level at this point is well above the Bears.

And I think that Vikings talent is well above the Packers.

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MEMBER #40 CBMD JAY CUTLER FAN CLUB

PACKER FANS RIDE ON THE SHORT BUS!!!

Is that your face? Or did your neck puke?

beargods3454:

IHATETHEBEARS:

I think the Vikings talent level at this point is well above the Bears.

And I think that Vikings talent is well above the Packers.

And I agree.

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ROLL ON THUNDER
SHINE ON LIGHTNING
THE DAYS ARE LONG
AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"

IHATETHEBEARS:

I think the Vikings talent level at this point is well above the Bears.

 

AP is the only player on the Vikings that really scares me.  He's actually the scariest player in the NFL right now.

I think the main point of this thread is that IHTB admits it looks like the Bears will likely win the Division. The while he was probably right about the rest it read like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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"The Dream is Alive"

IHATETHEBEARS:

beargods3454:

IHATETHEBEARS:

I think the Vikings talent level at this point is well above the Bears.

And I think that Vikings talent is well above the Packers.

And I agree.

The level of talent on the Minn squad is better than most of the NFL. Can they do anything with it is the question.

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"If you hone your body like a tool, you can use it as a weapon." Sweetness

Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts, it's how you play the game,' probably lost.

Six of the most farfetched reasons ever posted on this messageboard...shame on you for posting this nonsense IHTB.

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**Football in February** GO BEARS!

ONE REASON THE PACKERS ARE NOT SUPER BOWL BOUND

1. THEY SUCK

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IHATETHEBEARS:

beargods3454:

IHATETHEBEARS:

I think the Vikings talent level at this point is well above the Bears.

And I think that Vikings talent is well above the Packers.

And I agree.

So we all agree then, the Vikings are the clear favorites to win the NFC North.

Might as well not even bother to wait and see how the season pans out .

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"Save us, Lord, from the fury of the Northmen!--Europe 793 AD

vikingbacker18:

IHATETHEBEARS:

beargods3454:

IHATETHEBEARS:

I think the Vikings talent level at this point is well above the Bears.

And I think that Vikings talent is well above the Packers.

And I agree.

So we all agree then, the Vikings are the clear favorites to win the NFC North.

Might as well not even bother to wait and see how the season pans out .

No, let's play the season anyway.  The Vikings might start the season 6 and 0.  If that happens, the Bears will win the division.

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Dear Ron Turner:

We have our franchise QB now. Please don't screw this season up. We are counting on you.

Sincerely,

Bears fans

IHATETHEBEARS:

In what looks to be a very flawed NFC North — with the Vikings waiting for the latest chapter of the Brett Favre saga to unfold, the Packers not looking real comfortable at the moment with their conversion to a 3-4 defense, and the Lions arguably coming off the worst performance in league history — I could see the Bears winning a division title.

Barely.

But not a Super Bowl. Keeping with this column’s emphasis on Cutler, here are six good reasons:

I — Who’s going to catch Cutler’s passes? Bears head coach Lovie Smith continues to say with a straight face that Hester is a “legitimate No. 1 receiver,” but the consensus among daily team observers is that Hester remains a major work in progress. Although he did make some legitimate strides down the stretch last season, Hester’s continuing development could be hindered by a mostly unproven supporting cast, led by second-year pro Earl Bennett. Bennett looks a lot better, but his inability as a third-round rookie to make any kind of an impact at the team’s weakest position last season remains cause for concern. Rookies Juaquin Iglesias and Johnny Knox and veteran Rashied Davis complete a unit that could be keeping Angelo awake well into the night, as he seriously ponders the possibility of adding ex-Giant Plaxico Burress and his impressive 15.5 yards-per-catch career to the mix, the obvious risks nothwithstanding.

II — Safety issues hard to ignore. Start with the fact that the Bears’ most experienced safety by a wide margin is newcomer Josh Bullocks, who lost his starting roie in New Orleans last season and was so shaky that he showed up on a YouTube clip demonstrating how not to play the position. The Bears are hoping Corey Graham can make a successful conversion from cornerback to free safety, where his physical style could be well-suited for the position, but such experimentation hardly creates a comfort zone. It’s also worth noting that ’08 starting SS Kevin Payne is coming off shoulder surgery. But perhaps the biggest concern is the leadership at the position, which will be seriously diminished by the departure of Mike Brown, who has moved on to Kansas City. Yes, Brown had big problems staying healthy, but he was almost always effective when he was able to play.

III — D-line brittle in the middle. Even Rod Marinelli, the undisputed dean of D-line coaches, could be challenged to the max by a pair of injury-plagued starting tackles — Tommie Harris and Dusty Dvoracek — who are being counted on to exert a great deal more interior pressure up front than they did last season, when the Bears ranked 29th in QB sack percentage. A free-flowing rotation inside, including underrated Anthony Adams, promising second-year pro Marcus Harrison and rookie Jarron Gilbert, could help preserve Harris, whose left knee hasn’t been right since he suffered a grade-2 MCL sprain in his left knee in Week Three two seasons ago, and Dvoracek, who has been sidelined with injuries more often than not in his three years at the pro level.

IV — Potential chaos on the corners. The Bears are guaranteed to be nothing more than a passing fancy in ’09 if their pass defense performs as sloppily as it did last season, when it routinely gave up inside position on slant patterns and kept leaving a ridiculous amount of cushion for opposing receivers at the worst possible times. Former Pro Bowler Nate Vasher has greatly underachieved since signing a five-year, $28 million deal before the ’07 season, playing in only 12 of 32 games and intercepting only two passes. He says he’s feeling much healthier, but that remains to be seen. Same goes for fellow starting CB Charles Tillman, who was plagued by injuries to both shoulders last season and was responsible for perhaps the ’08 defense’s low point, when he allowed Bernard Berrian’s 99-yard TD reception in a 34-14 prime-time loss to the Vikings. 

V — Perilous protection. Cutler’s excellent escapability — he was sacked only 11 times last season — will make him much less of a sack target than Kyle Orton, but the starting tackles in front of him come equipped with noteworthy issues. Granted, OLT Orlando Pace is a distinguished seven-time Pro Bowler who sticks out like the Sears Tower. But he’s also 33 years old and has missed 25 games over the past three seasons due to assorted injuries. At right tackle, former first-round draft pick Chris Williams remains an unproven commodity, having seen limited action in his rookie campaign after suffering a back injury on the second day of training camp that eventually required surgery.    

VI — Show me the backups. Smith is going to have to pray for the same kind of good luck enjoyed by his good buddy Dungy, who never was forced to get by without Peyton Manning for an extended period of time. Is Smith really serious when he says he would be comfortable with either Brett Basanez or Caleb Hanie taking over under center if, God forbid, Cutler got cut down even for a few games? Those guys make the Cubs’ bullpen look worthy of Cooperstown.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/06/30/cutler-makes-bears-better-but-not-best

Bears aren't going anywhere with Cutler.

How many times do these bear fans need to be schooled on this board for this truth to finally sink in to their whale wall skulls?

PS.  Yes, I do hunt bears for a living

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“To bear defeat with dignity, to accept criticism with poise, to receive honors with humility -- these are marks of a mature and gracious poster.”

“Bear and endure your losses and defeats: This sorrow will one day prove to be for your own good if you are willing to accept it.”

bearhunter:

IHATETHEBEARS:

In what looks to be a very flawed NFC North — with the Vikings waiting for the latest chapter of the Brett Favre saga to unfold, the Packers not looking real comfortable at the moment with their conversion to a 3-4 defense, and the Lions arguably coming off the worst performance in league history — I could see the Bears winning a division title.

Barely.

But not a Super Bowl. Keeping with this column’s emphasis on Cutler, here are six good reasons:

I — Who’s going to catch Cutler’s passes? Bears head coach Lovie Smith continues to say with a straight face that Hester is a “legitimate No. 1 receiver,” but the consensus among daily team observers is that Hester remains a major work in progress. Although he did make some legitimate strides down the stretch last season, Hester’s continuing development could be hindered by a mostly unproven supporting cast, led by second-year pro Earl Bennett. Bennett looks a lot better, but his inability as a third-round rookie to make any kind of an impact at the team’s weakest position last season remains cause for concern. Rookies Juaquin Iglesias and Johnny Knox and veteran Rashied Davis complete a unit that could be keeping Angelo awake well into the night, as he seriously ponders the possibility of adding ex-Giant Plaxico Burress and his impressive 15.5 yards-per-catch career to the mix, the obvious risks nothwithstanding.

II — Safety issues hard to ignore. Start with the fact that the Bears’ most experienced safety by a wide margin is newcomer Josh Bullocks, who lost his starting roie in New Orleans last season and was so shaky that he showed up on a YouTube clip demonstrating how not to play the position. The Bears are hoping Corey Graham can make a successful conversion from cornerback to free safety, where his physical style could be well-suited for the position, but such experimentation hardly creates a comfort zone. It’s also worth noting that ’08 starting SS Kevin Payne is coming off shoulder surgery. But perhaps the biggest concern is the leadership at the position, which will be seriously diminished by the departure of Mike Brown, who has moved on to Kansas City. Yes, Brown had big problems staying healthy, but he was almost always effective when he was able to play.

III — D-line brittle in the middle. Even Rod Marinelli, the undisputed dean of D-line coaches, could be challenged to the max by a pair of injury-plagued starting tackles — Tommie Harris and Dusty Dvoracek — who are being counted on to exert a great deal more interior pressure up front than they did last season, when the Bears ranked 29th in QB sack percentage. A free-flowing rotation inside, including underrated Anthony Adams, promising second-year pro Marcus Harrison and rookie Jarron Gilbert, could help preserve Harris, whose left knee hasn’t been right since he suffered a grade-2 MCL sprain in his left knee in Week Three two seasons ago, and Dvoracek, who has been sidelined with injuries more often than not in his three years at the pro level.

IV — Potential chaos on the corners. The Bears are guaranteed to be nothing more than a passing fancy in ’09 if their pass defense performs as sloppily as it did last season, when it routinely gave up inside position on slant patterns and kept leaving a ridiculous amount of cushion for opposing receivers at the worst possible times. Former Pro Bowler Nate Vasher has greatly underachieved since signing a five-year, $28 million deal before the ’07 season, playing in only 12 of 32 games and intercepting only two passes. He says he’s feeling much healthier, but that remains to be seen. Same goes for fellow starting CB Charles Tillman, who was plagued by injuries to both shoulders last season and was responsible for perhaps the ’08 defense’s low point, when he allowed Bernard Berrian’s 99-yard TD reception in a 34-14 prime-time loss to the Vikings. 

V — Perilous protection. Cutler’s excellent escapability — he was sacked only 11 times last season — will make him much less of a sack target than Kyle Orton, but the starting tackles in front of him come equipped with noteworthy issues. Granted, OLT Orlando Pace is a distinguished seven-time Pro Bowler who sticks out like the Sears Tower. But he’s also 33 years old and has missed 25 games over the past three seasons due to assorted injuries. At right tackle, former first-round draft pick Chris Williams remains an unproven commodity, having seen limited action in his rookie campaign after suffering a back injury on the second day of training camp that eventually required surgery.    

VI — Show me the backups. Smith is going to have to pray for the same kind of good luck enjoyed by his good buddy Dungy, who never was forced to get by without Peyton Manning for an extended period of time. Is Smith really serious when he says he would be comfortable with either Brett Basanez or Caleb Hanie taking over under center if, God forbid, Cutler got cut down even for a few games? Those guys make the Cubs’ bullpen look worthy of Cooperstown.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/06/30/cutler-makes-bears-better-but-not-best

Bears aren't going anywhere with Cutler.

How many times do these bear fans need to be schooled on this board for this truth to finally sink in to their whale wall skulls?

PS.  Yes, I do hunt bears for a living

How's roid boy doing?

 

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Dear Ron Turner:

We have our franchise QB now. Please don't screw this season up. We are counting on you.

Sincerely,

Bears fans

So at first the Pack fans, Viking fans, Bronco fans, and Charger (what are they doing here????) fans were saying the Bears wouldn't be any better with Cutler and the changes they made. Now training camp is less than a month away, and they're trying to justify why the Bears won't get to the SuperBowl? Wow! Give it a few more weeks and they'll be posting columns and opinions as to why we won't be repeating in 2010. Jealousy truly is the most sincere form of flattery!

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- IHTB

There are three sides of an argument -- your side, my side and the right side. - unknown

PAYTON 34EVER:

Charger (what are they doing here????) fans

Seems the CBMB is the most attractive site to all NFL fans. We have Packer, Viking, Panther, Falcon, Titan, Charger, Bronco, Eagle fans and prob. more I can't think of off the top of my head.

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"There is only one man I embrace when we meet. And only one I call Coach - George Halas." - Vince Lombardi

Never Die Easy - R.I.P. Walter Payton

PAYTON 34EVER:

So at first the Pack fans, Viking fans, Bronco fans, and Charger (what are they doing here????) fans were saying the Bears wouldn't be any better with Cutler and the changes they made. Now training camp is less than a month away, and they're trying to justify why the Bears won't get to the SuperBowl? Wow! Give it a few more weeks and they'll be posting columns and opinions as to why we won't be repeating in 2010. Jealousy truly is the most sincere form of flattery!

Actually no. The author's point was that the Bears MIGHT win the division. But in his opinion, even if they do, that's about as far as their going to go.

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ROLL ON THUNDER
SHINE ON LIGHTNING
THE DAYS ARE LONG
AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"

In reality the OP make good points on all. But you could also argue each of them.
1. Eddie Royal was a rookie and Cutler made him a house hold name. Knox and Hester are both High cieling guys that could do the same thing Royal did. Improvement.
2.Safety is a tough one to argue- But we did get a coach that has had some sucess, we are looking at a guy on our squad that could be argued that he might actually be a better safety than he was a Corner. Improvement.
3.What if Tommie and Dusty stay Healthy? Plus Gilbert is another High ceiling guy with Harrison in his second season. Adams in my opinion is underrated. He was part of the reason we were #5 against the run. Marinelli is going to have a big impact. Just watch. Improvement
4.Vasher and Tillman could both come back and have a great season just as easily as they could have a poor one. Both are getting healthy D-line performance and Lovie calling the D will make a big difference. Improvement
5. Both Tackles are ideal pass protection technicians. Plus Cutlers Mobility compared to Kyle's? Improvement.
6. Can't argue against his point here. Hanie showed enough last year that we had to carry 3 QB's to keep him from being snatched off the PS. Still Zero playing experience. It could get ugly if Cutler goes down.

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Turners idea of being unpredictable is to come up with a play that has the lowest possibility of success and try to catch them off guard with his stupidity!!!!

wildest5:

ONE REASON THE PACKERS ARE NOT SUPER BOWL BOUND

1. THEY SUCK

hahahaha

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"Never die easy. Why run out of bounds and die easy? Make that linebacker pay. It carries into all facets of your life. It's okay to lose, to die, but don't die without trying, without giving it your best."
--Walter Payton