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Last post 07-10-2009, 11:00 AM by dbears54. 163 replies.
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Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad
well this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for either..( glad we avoided the brohm bust for forte though!)
Packers backup QBs show slight improvement
Joe Philbin thought about it for a moment, perhaps remembering the adage that if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
Well, certainly they’re better than they’ve been,” Philbin said a day before the team wrapped up its final offseason workout.
Brohm, the supposedly ready-made NFL quarterback who some felt would go higher than the second round (No. 56 overall), struggled mightily from the get-go and never really threatened to win the job.
Brohm seemingly did little to enhance his chances of winning the backup job during the offseason workouts this year, but it appears he and Flynn will get equal reps — at least at the start of training camp — until one of them emerges.
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090704/PKR01/307040086/1058&located=RSS
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07-06-2009, 9:31 AM |
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Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
ROLL ON THUNDER SHINE ON LIGHTNING THE DAYS ARE LONG AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"
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07-06-2009, 9:47 AM |
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Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad
IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Looks like you better hope it stays that way.
"If you hone your body like a tool, you can use it as a weapon." Sweetness Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts, it's how you play the game,' probably lost.
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07-06-2009, 9:49 AM |
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IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
and that just shows it most likely will bechanging soon and that "luck" will run out
cheers!
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07-06-2009, 9:53 AM |
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IHATETHEBEARS:I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Correction IHTB, You needed Rodgers in '07 when Favre hurt his pinkie finger. As far as needing a BU QB, you still do! Rodgers goes down, and all you have is Brohm, not a pleasant thought.
The Bears are in a similar situation for a change, but, I like Hanie a ton better than Brohm as a backup. And its been proven that the Bears can win without a star QB, can the Packers say the same? Your special teams and defense will be the downfall of the Packers this year. You better hope Rodgers avoids the injury bug.
“He came back with a touchdown, and caught another one when we were going in for the second touchdown. It’s going to happen. I’m going to miss throws. I’m going to throw interceptions. Guys are going to miss blocks. We just have to keep playing fast and get over it as soon as possible.” Jay Cutler
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07-06-2009, 10:15 AM |
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skipmann: IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Looks like you better hope it stays that way.
I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.
ROLL ON THUNDER SHINE ON LIGHTNING THE DAYS ARE LONG AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"
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07-06-2009, 10:38 AM |
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IHATETHEBEARS: skipmann: IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Looks like you better hope it stays that way.
I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.
Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury? I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.
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07-06-2009, 10:54 AM |
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1985AllOverAgain: IHATETHEBEARS: skipmann: IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Looks like you better hope it stays that way.
I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.
Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury? I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.
He was injured i think something with his shoulder, but decided to stay and play instead of missing games, now it seems it probably was because he had no one to back him up.
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07-06-2009, 11:03 AM |
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sagbear: 1985AllOverAgain: IHATETHEBEARS: skipmann: IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Looks like you better hope it stays that way.
I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.
Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury? I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.
He was injured i think something with his shoulder, but decided to stay and play instead of missing games, now it seems it probably was because he had no one to back him up.
Yes, I do remember something about a possible injury last year. Either way, doesn't look good for him starting the whole year. That's four years in a row with an injury. I agree with another poster, I'm not super-pumped about our backups, but they seem to be better than the Packers'.
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07-06-2009, 11:11 AM |
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IHATETHEBEARS: skipmann: IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Looks like you better hope it stays that way.
I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.
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So rodgers getting in high school, then getting injured in college.. then getting injured in 2006 preseason, then getting injured in 2007 in his ONE GAME PLAYED( and out for year).. then getting his shoulder injured AGAIN last year( but played through it) = no worries
got it..lol
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07-06-2009, 12:55 PM |
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1985AllOverAgain: IHATETHEBEARS: skipmann: IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Looks like you better hope it stays that way.
I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.
Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury? I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.
It was also the first year in which he knew he was the starter from day one. Thus he expected to play every single week. Any backup can claim that they're geared up and ready to play at a moment's notice. But when you're a backup to Brett Favre, it's probably fair to say that he had a different mindset and didn't expect to play, and may not have been fully prepared.
ROLL ON THUNDER SHINE ON LIGHTNING THE DAYS ARE LONG AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"
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IHATETHEBEARS: 1985AllOverAgain: IHATETHEBEARS: skipmann: IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Looks like you better hope it stays that way.
I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.
Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury? I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.
It was also the first year in which he knew he was the starter from day one. Thus he expected to play every single week. Any backup can claim that they're geared up and ready to play at a moment's notice. But when you're a backup to Brett Favre, it's probably fair to say that he had a different mindset and didn't expect to play, and may not have been fully prepared.
Not sure what you are saying. Are you saying that is why he got hurt in the past? Because he wasn't mentally prepared to play? If so, fair enough. Although I don't agree. And I wouldn't bet the farm on him not being injured at some point this season. But then I wouldn't bet the farm on ANY QB not being injured in a year. It's a violent sport and a dangerous position. I think the point was that the Bear backups seem to be more ready to step in. But none of them have any real bragging right at this point!
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07-06-2009, 1:22 PM |
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Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad
It would be fun to see them ride the QB carousel for a change.
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07-06-2009, 1:25 PM |
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dudekc:It would be fun to see them ride the QB carousel for a change.
Amen, brother!
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07-06-2009, 1:43 PM |
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Backup QB discussion? That's the important issue of the day???
Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too. But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.
There are numerous QB's that don't get injured. Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?
Cheers
2009 Green Bay Packers finish 11-5, sweeping the Bears. Aaron Rodgers finishes season with higher QB rating than Jay Cutler, Bears finish no higher than 8-8. Is Jay Cutler the next Uncle Rico? 1950's 0 Championships, Bears Suck 1960's 1 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 5 Championships 1970's 0 Championships, Bears Suck 1980's 1 Championship, Bears Suck 1990's 0 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 1 Championship 2000's 0 Championships, Bears, still Sucking after all these years In wardi's lifetime, Packers 6 Championships, Bears 2...Packers lead series by 15 games in wardi's lifetime.... Cheers
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07-06-2009, 1:45 PM |
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dudekc:It would be fun to see them ride the QB carousel for a change.
bewteen starr and favre they rode THAT carousel for 2 decades in 1970's and 1980's.. : )
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07-06-2009, 1:47 PM |
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wardisback:
Backup QB discussion? That's the important issue of the day???
Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too. But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.
There are numerous QB's that don't get injured. Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?
Cheers
whew! your football knowledge so limited you don't even know who is the back up on bears
How sad..
and as rodgers been injured in 100% of the seasonn he's been in the league sure doesn't point to not worrying does it? or saying he will not get injured
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wardisback:Backup QB discussion? That's the important issue of the day???
Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too. But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.
There are numerous QB's that don't get injured. Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?
Cheers
Concannon has been dead for several years, so I doubt he will play for anyone this year.
Back to the drawing board, Wardi. Our QB is Jay Cutler. You will know the name after he finishes dissecting your sad defese opening night.
Dear Ron Turner: We have our franchise QB now. Please don't screw this season up. We are counting on you. Sincerely, Bears fans
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07-06-2009, 2:00 PM |
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1985AllOverAgain: IHATETHEBEARS: 1985AllOverAgain: IHATETHEBEARS: skipmann: IHATETHEBEARS:
I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.
Looks like you better hope it stays that way.
I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.
Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury? I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.
It was also the first year in which he knew he was the starter from day one. Thus he expected to play every single week. Any backup can claim that they're geared up and ready to play at a moment's notice. But when you're a backup to Brett Favre, it's probably fair to say that he had a different mindset and didn't expect to play, and may not have been fully prepared.
Not sure what you are saying. Are you saying that is why he got hurt in the past? Because he wasn't mentally prepared to play? I'm saying it's a possibility - more physical than mental however. He came in during mop-up duty twice in the past and got hurt. Once the job was his, he played the full season without injury. That could lend credence to the theory.If so, fair enough. Although I don't agree. And I wouldn't bet the farm on him not being injured at some point this season. But then I wouldn't bet the farm on ANY QB not being injured in a year. It's a violent sport and a dangerous position. 100% agreed.I think the point was that the Bear backups seem to be more ready to step in. But none of them have any real bragging right at this point! 100% agreed.
ROLL ON THUNDER SHINE ON LIGHTNING THE DAYS ARE LONG AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"
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Once the job was his, he played the full season without injury.
really??
please explain this:
Nothing but bad news for Rodgers
Injured shoulder caps rough afternoon for QB
By Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel
Posted: Sept. 29, 2008
All of those things are secondary to the right shoulder injury he suffered on a third-quarter scramble in which he reached out with the ball and jammed his arm and elbow into the ground.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/32480149.html
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dbears54:
Once the job was his, he played the full season without injury.
really??
please explain this:
Nothing but bad news for Rodgers
Injured shoulder caps rough afternoon for QB
By Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel
Posted: Sept. 29, 2008
All of those things are secondary to the right shoulder injury he suffered on a third-quarter scramble in which he reached out with the ball and jammed his arm and elbow into the ground.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/32480149.html
You know what I meant. He never missed any time due to said injury. No football player goes through a season injury free.
ROLL ON THUNDER SHINE ON LIGHTNING THE DAYS ARE LONG AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"
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dbears54: wardisback:
Backup QB discussion? That's the important issue of the day???
Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too. But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.
There are numerous QB's that don't get injured. Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?
Cheers
whew! your football knowledge so limited you don't even know who is the back up on bears
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And anyone besides a bear fan should know who there backups are????
Give me a break. You are so enamored by MY fan base. You are so jealous that this board can't live without me and you try to usurp my ownership of this forum by posting at nausium....You actually think any fan of any team should care who the bears back ups are? Are you insane?
Let's see if I have this straight, you sit down to watch the NY Giants play the bears and you are thinking, "....we have to knock Eli Manning out of the game so we can face their back up QB....yeah, my bears teams sucks so bad that the only way to beat the Giants is to knock Eli Manning out of the game...."
Cheers
2009 Green Bay Packers finish 11-5, sweeping the Bears. Aaron Rodgers finishes season with higher QB rating than Jay Cutler, Bears finish no higher than 8-8. Is Jay Cutler the next Uncle Rico? 1950's 0 Championships, Bears Suck 1960's 1 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 5 Championships 1970's 0 Championships, Bears Suck 1980's 1 Championship, Bears Suck 1990's 0 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 1 Championship 2000's 0 Championships, Bears, still Sucking after all these years In wardi's lifetime, Packers 6 Championships, Bears 2...Packers lead series by 15 games in wardi's lifetime.... Cheers
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BearsFanMike: wardisback:
Backup QB discussion? That's the important issue of the day???
Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too. But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.
There are numerous QB's that don't get injured. Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?
Cheers
Concannon has been dead for several years, so I doubt he will play for anyone this year. Back to the drawing board, Wardi. Our QB is Jay Cutler. You will know the name after he finishes dissecting your sad defese opening night.
You seem to have forgot the debate on "Jay Cutler = Jack Concannon"
2009 Green Bay Packers finish 11-5, sweeping the Bears. Aaron Rodgers finishes season with higher QB rating than Jay Cutler, Bears finish no higher than 8-8. Is Jay Cutler the next Uncle Rico? 1950's 0 Championships, Bears Suck 1960's 1 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 5 Championships 1970's 0 Championships, Bears Suck 1980's 1 Championship, Bears Suck 1990's 0 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 1 Championship 2000's 0 Championships, Bears, still Sucking after all these years In wardi's lifetime, Packers 6 Championships, Bears 2...Packers lead series by 15 games in wardi's lifetime.... Cheers
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IHATETHEBEARS: dbears54:
Once the job was his, he played the full season without injury.
really??
please explain this:
Nothing but bad news for Rodgers
Injured shoulder caps rough afternoon for QB
By Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel
Posted: Sept. 29, 2008
All of those things are secondary to the right shoulder injury he suffered on a third-quarter scramble in which he reached out with the ball and jammed his arm and elbow into the ground.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/32480149.html
You know what I meant. He never missed any time due to said injury. No football player goes through a season injury free.
No i don't know what you mean. As many have told you before WORDS HAVE MEANING
you said he wasn't injured in 2008, that wasn't true.,he was injured.
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wardisback: dbears54: wardisback:
Backup QB discussion? That's the important issue of the day???
Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too. But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.
There are numerous QB's that don't get injured. Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?
Cheers
whew! your football knowledge so limited you don't even know who is the back up on bears
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And anyone besides a bear fan should know who there backups are????
Give me a break. You are so enamored by MY fan base. You are so jealous that this board can't live without me and you try to usurp my ownership of this forum by posting at nausium....You actually think any fan of any team should care who the bears back ups are? Are you insane?
Let's see if I have this straight, you sit down to watch the NY Giants play the bears and you are thinking, "....we have to knock Eli Manning out of the game so we can face their back up QB....yeah, my bears teams sucks so bad that the only way to beat the Giants is to knock Eli Manning out of the game...."
You are a joke and a sad little dude.
Cheers
as a football FAN i know most teams starter and backups,,
that you are ignorant about players and don't know your rival's players, YOUR PROBLEM not mine, i guess ignorance is bliss in your case, and that makes you look real foolish when you try and do smack about backups AND GET IT WRONG your smack just backfired on you..,So does matter if you know who teh backups are, because you look foolish when you get it wrong, comprende?
owned again!
cheers!
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