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  •  07-06-2009, 7:14 AM 1661985

    Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    well this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for either..( glad we avoided the brohm bust for forte though!)

    Packers backup QBs show slight improvement

    Joe Philbin thought about it for a moment, perhaps remembering the adage that if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.

    Well, certainly they’re better than they’ve been,” Philbin said a day before the team wrapped up its final offseason workout.

    Brohm, the supposedly ready-made NFL quarterback who some felt would go higher than the second round (No. 56 overall), struggled mightily from the get-go and never really threatened to win the job.

    Brohm seemingly did little to enhance his chances of winning the backup job during the offseason workouts this year, but it appears he and Flynn will get equal reps — at least at the start of training camp — until one of them emerges.

    http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090704/PKR01/307040086/1058&located=RSS

  •  07-06-2009, 9:31 AM 1662079 in reply to 1661985

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.


    ROLL ON THUNDER
    SHINE ON LIGHTNING
    THE DAYS ARE LONG
    AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
    NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
    AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

    I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"


  •  07-06-2009, 9:47 AM 1662095 in reply to 1662079

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Looks like you better hope it stays that way.

     


    "If you hone your body like a tool, you can use it as a weapon." Sweetness

    Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts, it's how you play the game,' probably lost.


  •  07-06-2009, 9:49 AM 1662096 in reply to 1662079

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    and that just shows it most likely will bechanging soon and that "luck" will run out

    cheers!

  •  07-06-2009, 9:53 AM 1662102 in reply to 1662079

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Correction IHTB, You needed Rodgers in '07 when Favre hurt his pinkie finger. As far as needing a BU QB, you still do! Rodgers goes down, and all you have is Brohm, not a pleasant thought. The Bears are in a similar situation for a change, but, I like Hanie a ton better than Brohm as a backup. And its been proven that the Bears can win without a star QB, can the Packers say the same? Your special teams and defense will be the downfall of the Packers this year. You better hope Rodgers avoids the injury bug.

    “He came back with a touchdown, and caught another one when we were going in for the second touchdown. It’s going to happen. I’m going to miss throws. I’m going to throw interceptions. Guys are going to miss blocks. We just have to keep playing fast and get over it as soon as possible.” Jay Cutler


  •  07-06-2009, 10:15 AM 1662123 in reply to 1662095

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    skipmann:
    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Looks like you better hope it stays that way.

     

    I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.


    ROLL ON THUNDER
    SHINE ON LIGHTNING
    THE DAYS ARE LONG
    AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
    NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
    AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

    I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"


  •  07-06-2009, 10:38 AM 1662146 in reply to 1662123

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    IHATETHEBEARS:
    skipmann:
    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Looks like you better hope it stays that way.

     

    I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.



    Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury?

    I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.


  •  07-06-2009, 10:54 AM 1662175 in reply to 1662146

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    1985AllOverAgain:
    IHATETHEBEARS:
    skipmann:
    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Looks like you better hope it stays that way.

     

    I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.



    Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury?

    I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.


    He was injured i think something with his shoulder, but decided to stay and play instead of missing games, now it seems it probably was because he had no one to back him up.

  •  07-06-2009, 11:03 AM 1662191 in reply to 1662175

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    sagbear:
    1985AllOverAgain:
    IHATETHEBEARS:
    skipmann:
    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Looks like you better hope it stays that way.

     

    I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.



    Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury?

    I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.


    He was injured i think something with his shoulder, but decided to stay and play instead of missing games, now it seems it probably was because he had no one to back him up.



    Yes, I do remember something about a possible injury last year.

    Either way, doesn't look good for him starting the whole year.  That's four years in a row with an injury.

    I agree with another poster, I'm not super-pumped about our backups, but they seem to be better than the Packers'. 
  •  07-06-2009, 11:11 AM 1662208 in reply to 1662123

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    IHATETHEBEARS:
    skipmann:
    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Looks like you better hope it stays that way.

     

    I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.

    ??

    So rodgers getting in high school, then getting injured in college.. then getting injured in  2006 preseason, then getting injured in 2007 in his ONE GAME PLAYED( and out for year).. then getting his shoulder injured AGAIN last year( but played through it) = no worries

    got it..lol

  •  07-06-2009, 12:55 PM 1662328 in reply to 1662146

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    1985AllOverAgain:
    IHATETHEBEARS:
    skipmann:
    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Looks like you better hope it stays that way.

     

    I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.



    Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury?

    I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.


    It was also the first year in which he knew he was the starter from day one. Thus he expected to play every single week. Any backup can claim that they're geared up and ready to play at a moment's notice. But when you're a backup to Brett Favre, it's probably fair to say that he had a different mindset and didn't expect to play, and may not have been fully prepared.


    ROLL ON THUNDER
    SHINE ON LIGHTNING
    THE DAYS ARE LONG
    AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
    NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
    AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

    I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"


  •  07-06-2009, 1:17 PM 1662357 in reply to 1662328

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    IHATETHEBEARS:
    1985AllOverAgain:
    IHATETHEBEARS:
    skipmann:
    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Looks like you better hope it stays that way.

     

    I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.



    Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury?

    I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.


    It was also the first year in which he knew he was the starter from day one. Thus he expected to play every single week. Any backup can claim that they're geared up and ready to play at a moment's notice. But when you're a backup to Brett Favre, it's probably fair to say that he had a different mindset and didn't expect to play, and may not have been fully prepared.



    Not sure what you are saying.  Are you saying that is why he got hurt in the past?  Because he wasn't mentally prepared to play?

    If so, fair enough.  Although I don't agree.  And I wouldn't bet the farm on him not being injured at some point this season. But then I wouldn't bet the farm on ANY QB not being injured in a year.  It's a violent sport and a dangerous position.

    I think the point was that the Bear backups seem to be more ready to step in.  But none of them have any real bragging right at this point!


  •  07-06-2009, 1:22 PM 1662370 in reply to 1662357

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    It would be fun to see them ride the QB carousel for a change.
  •  07-06-2009, 1:25 PM 1662374 in reply to 1662370

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    dudekc:
    It would be fun to see them ride the QB carousel for a change.


    Amen, brother!
  •  07-06-2009, 1:43 PM 1662396 in reply to 1662374

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    Backup QB discussion?  That's the important issue of the day???

    Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too.  But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.

    There are numerous QB's that don't get injured.  Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?

    Cheers


    2009 Green Bay Packers finish 11-5, sweeping the Bears. Aaron Rodgers finishes season with higher QB rating than Jay Cutler, Bears finish no higher than 8-8.

    Is Jay Cutler the next Uncle Rico?

    1950's 0 Championships, Bears Suck
    1960's 1 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 5 Championships
    1970's 0 Championships, Bears Suck
    1980's 1 Championship, Bears Suck
    1990's 0 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 1 Championship
    2000's 0 Championships, Bears, still Sucking after all these years

    In wardi's lifetime, Packers 6 Championships, Bears 2...Packers lead series by 15 games in wardi's lifetime....

    Cheers
  •  07-06-2009, 1:45 PM 1662398 in reply to 1662370

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    dudekc:
    It would be fun to see them ride the QB carousel for a change.

    bewteen starr and favre they rode THAT carousel for 2 decades in 1970's and 1980's.. : )

  •  07-06-2009, 1:47 PM 1662399 in reply to 1662396

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    wardisback:

    Backup QB discussion?  That's the important issue of the day???

    Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too.  But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.

    There are numerous QB's that don't get injured.  Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?

    Cheers

    whew! your football knowledge so limited you don't even know who is the back up on bears

    How sad..

    and as rodgers been injured in 100% of the seasonn he's been in the league sure doesn't point to not worrying does it? or saying he will not get injured

  •  07-06-2009, 1:55 PM 1662409 in reply to 1662396

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    wardisback:

    Backup QB discussion?  That's the important issue of the day???


    Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too.  But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.


    There are numerous QB's that don't get injured.  Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?


    Cheers



    Concannon has been dead for several years, so I doubt he will play for anyone this year.

    Back to the drawing board, Wardi. Our QB is Jay Cutler. You will know the name after he finishes dissecting your sad defese opening night.

    Dear Ron Turner:

    We have our franchise QB now. Please don't screw this season up. We are counting on you.

    Sincerely,

    Bears fans
  •  07-06-2009, 2:00 PM 1662414 in reply to 1662357

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    1985AllOverAgain:
    IHATETHEBEARS:
    1985AllOverAgain:
    IHATETHEBEARS:
    skipmann:
    IHATETHEBEARS:

    I guess it's no big deal since the Packers haven't needed a backup quarterback since September, 1992.

    Looks like you better hope it stays that way.

     

    I guess there's no reason to think it won't. Of course if a backup comes in, we'll see how he does. No one has any idea how either of them would perform in an actual NFL game.



    Wasn't last year the first year Rodgers ever went an entire season in the NFL without having an injury?

    I would think that stat would tend to suggest last year was an anomaly with regard to Rodgers and injuries, and that it is most likely that the Packers will start their back-up quarterback at least once this year.


    It was also the first year in which he knew he was the starter from day one. Thus he expected to play every single week. Any backup can claim that they're geared up and ready to play at a moment's notice. But when you're a backup to Brett Favre, it's probably fair to say that he had a different mindset and didn't expect to play, and may not have been fully prepared.



    Not sure what you are saying.  Are you saying that is why he got hurt in the past?  Because he wasn't mentally prepared to play? I'm saying it's a possibility - more physical than mental however. He came in during mop-up duty twice in the past and got hurt. Once the job was his, he played the full season without injury. That could lend credence to the theory.

    If so, fair enough.  Although I don't agree.  And I wouldn't bet the farm on him not being injured at some point this season. But then I wouldn't bet the farm on ANY QB not being injured in a year.  It's a violent sport and a dangerous position. 100% agreed.

    I think the point was that the Bear backups seem to be more ready to step in.  But none of them have any real bragging right at this point! 100% agreed.



    ROLL ON THUNDER
    SHINE ON LIGHTNING
    THE DAYS ARE LONG
    AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
    NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
    AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

    I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"


  •  07-06-2009, 2:04 PM 1662420 in reply to 1662414

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    Once the job was his, he played the full season without injury.

    really??

    please explain this:

    Nothing but bad news for Rodgers

    Injured shoulder caps rough afternoon for QB

  •  07-06-2009, 2:08 PM 1662428 in reply to 1662420

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    dbears54:

    Once the job was his, he played the full season without injury.

    really??

    please explain this:

    Nothing but bad news for Rodgers

    Injured shoulder caps rough afternoon for QB

    You know what I meant. He never missed any time due to said injury. No football player goes through a season injury free.


    ROLL ON THUNDER
    SHINE ON LIGHTNING
    THE DAYS ARE LONG
    AND THE NIGHTS ARE FRIGHTENING
    NOTHING MATTERS ANYWAY
    AND THAT'S THE HELL OF IT

    I was at the grocery store buying eight apples, and the clerk asked me if I would like a bag. And I said, "No, man, I juggle! But I can only juggle eight. If I'm ever here buying nine apples, bag 'em up!"


  •  07-06-2009, 2:10 PM 1662430 in reply to 1662399

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    dbears54:
    wardisback:

    Backup QB discussion?  That's the important issue of the day???

    Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too.  But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.

    There are numerous QB's that don't get injured.  Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?

    Cheers

    whew! your football knowledge so limited you don't even know who is the back up on bears

    .....

    And anyone besides a bear fan should know who there backups are????

    Give me a break.  You are so enamored by MY fan base.  You are so jealous that this board can't live without me and you try to usurp my ownership of this forum by posting at nausium....You actually think any fan of any team should care who the bears back ups are?  Are you insane?

    Let's see if I have this straight, you sit down to watch the NY Giants play the bears and you are thinking, "....we have to knock Eli Manning out of the game so we can face their back up QB....yeah, my bears teams sucks so bad that the only way to beat the Giants is to knock Eli Manning out of the game...."


    Cheers


    2009 Green Bay Packers finish 11-5, sweeping the Bears. Aaron Rodgers finishes season with higher QB rating than Jay Cutler, Bears finish no higher than 8-8.

    Is Jay Cutler the next Uncle Rico?

    1950's 0 Championships, Bears Suck
    1960's 1 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 5 Championships
    1970's 0 Championships, Bears Suck
    1980's 1 Championship, Bears Suck
    1990's 0 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 1 Championship
    2000's 0 Championships, Bears, still Sucking after all these years

    In wardi's lifetime, Packers 6 Championships, Bears 2...Packers lead series by 15 games in wardi's lifetime....

    Cheers
  •  07-06-2009, 2:14 PM 1662440 in reply to 1662409

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    BearsFanMike:
    wardisback:

    Backup QB discussion?  That's the important issue of the day???

    Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too.  But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.

    There are numerous QB's that don't get injured.  Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?

    Cheers

    Concannon has been dead for several years, so I doubt he will play for anyone this year. Back to the drawing board, Wardi. Our QB is Jay Cutler. You will know the name after he finishes dissecting your sad defese opening night.

    You seem to have forgot the debate on "Jay Cutler = Jack Concannon"


    2009 Green Bay Packers finish 11-5, sweeping the Bears. Aaron Rodgers finishes season with higher QB rating than Jay Cutler, Bears finish no higher than 8-8.

    Is Jay Cutler the next Uncle Rico?

    1950's 0 Championships, Bears Suck
    1960's 1 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 5 Championships
    1970's 0 Championships, Bears Suck
    1980's 1 Championship, Bears Suck
    1990's 0 Championships, Bears Suck, Packers 1 Championship
    2000's 0 Championships, Bears, still Sucking after all these years

    In wardi's lifetime, Packers 6 Championships, Bears 2...Packers lead series by 15 games in wardi's lifetime....

    Cheers
  •  07-06-2009, 2:15 PM 1662442 in reply to 1662428

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    IHATETHEBEARS:
    dbears54:

    Once the job was his, he played the full season without injury.

    really??

    please explain this:

    Nothing but bad news for Rodgers

    Injured shoulder caps rough afternoon for QB

    You know what I meant. He never missed any time due to said injury. No football player goes through a season injury free.

    No i don't know what you mean. As many have told you before WORDS HAVE MEANING

    you said he wasn't injured in 2008, that wasn't true.,he was injured.

  •  07-06-2009, 2:18 PM 1662449 in reply to 1662430

    Re: Packers backup QBs show slight improvement-but still bad

    wardisback:
    dbears54:
    wardisback:

    Backup QB discussion?  That's the important issue of the day???

    Matt Flynn is fine, Brohm maybe too.  But it doesn't matter because Rodgers will be fine and likely play the whole year.

    There are numerous QB's that don't get injured.  Seeing that this is the bears message board, I'd be worried about your own, isn't bassenet from Northwestern your great hope after Jack Concannon?

    Cheers

    whew! your football knowledge so limited you don't even know who is the back up on bears

    .....

    And anyone besides a bear fan should know who there backups are????

    Give me a break.  You are so enamored by MY fan base.  You are so jealous that this board can't live without me and you try to usurp my ownership of this forum by posting at nausium....You actually think any fan of any team should care who the bears back ups are?  Are you insane?

    Let's see if I have this straight, you sit down to watch the NY Giants play the bears and you are thinking, "....we have to knock Eli Manning out of the game so we can face their back up QB....yeah, my bears teams sucks so bad that the only way to beat the Giants is to knock Eli Manning out of the game...."

    You are a joke and a sad little dude.

    Cheers

    as a football FAN i know most teams starter and backups,,

    that you are ignorant about players  and don't know your rival's players, YOUR PROBLEM not mine, i guess ignorance is bliss in your case, and that makes you look real foolish when you try and do smack about backups AND GET IT WRONG your smack just backfired on you..,So  does matter if you know who teh backups are, because you look foolish when you get it wrong, comprende?

    owned again!

    cheers!

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