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Last post 11-06-2009, 10:56 AM by Omeletpants. 155 replies.
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  •  11-01-2009, 4:07 PM 1882367

    Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?

    2009 NFC NORTH DIVISION CHAMPIONS CHICAGO BEARS

  •  11-01-2009, 4:11 PM 1882382 in reply to 1882367

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    SIGN HIM!
  •  11-01-2009, 4:17 PM 1882407 in reply to 1882382

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    until we fix the o-line, it doesn't matter who's running the ball...
  •  11-01-2009, 4:19 PM 1882417 in reply to 1882367

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Wolfe wouldn't average no more than 2 or 3 if he got more carries. He's only good in limited situations. YPCs don't always tell the whole story. 5-10 is all he's good for.
  •  11-01-2009, 4:22 PM 1882423 in reply to 1882417

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Still, if Wolfe is good for 10 per game, and we're only running 25 times a game, that's 40% of the carries.  Our running game as a whole sucks this year...at least give Wolfe a shot on the off tackle and pitch plays.  I like to think he's  a pretty good screen receiver too.  He's shown nothing but heart and toughness this year, even when bonehead turner sends him between the tackles.
  •  11-01-2009, 4:31 PM 1882444 in reply to 1882423

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    I don't buy it that his production would go down after 5-10 carries. Yes, due to his size, you don't want him in as much for pass protection, so you have to be creative with your blocking, but I don't see his size being a factor in YPC, statistically.

    And No, I would not want to see him in short yardage.
  •  11-01-2009, 4:34 PM 1882449 in reply to 1882367

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    by the way, anyone know where or how I can see Wolfe's 30+ yard run? I missed it. Too bad it was late in the game. I doubt the highlights will show it.

    2009 NFC NORTH DIVISION CHAMPIONS CHICAGO BEARS

  •  11-01-2009, 4:36 PM 1882454 in reply to 1882449

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    yeah and if ya didn't have HD ya would'nt even have known it

    We knew ... in that huddle ... there was a group ... destined ... to apply the kind of pressure ... that had not been seen before." ...
  •  11-01-2009, 4:41 PM 1882464 in reply to 1882367

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    MAYBE MORE REPS
  •  11-01-2009, 4:43 PM 1882476 in reply to 1882417

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Resolute:
    Wolfe wouldn't average no more than 2 or 3 if he got more carries. He's only good in limited situations. YPCs don't always tell the whole story. 5-10 is all he's good for.

    People dont understand this concept. Same can be said for AP. Go look at his stats. The more carries the faster ur c his ypc go down

  •  11-01-2009, 4:46 PM 1882486 in reply to 1882454

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    SAYERS5140:
    yeah and if ya didn't have HD ya would'nt even have known it

    good thing i stayed in the dorm to watch this game then!


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  •  11-01-2009, 4:56 PM 1882511 in reply to 1882476

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    beav720:

    Resolute:
    Wolfe wouldn't average no more than 2 or 3 if he got more carries. He's only good in limited situations. YPCs don't always tell the whole story. 5-10 is all he's good for.


    People dont understand this concept. Same can be said for AP. Go look at his stats. The more carries the faster ur c his ypc go down



    Although his ypc may drop with more carries, what I don't agree with is the assumption that after a lot of carries, Wolfe's average would be worse than Forte's, or at least significantly worse, just because he's small, without basing it on any data. We do not know what he is capable of yet at this level, because he never carries it that many times. I'd like to see him get a few more carries. Also, when people talk about leaving a RB in there long enough to get into a rhythm, Wolfe is never in there enough to do that.

    None of the Bears RBs are going to average many ypc behind this O-line, today's breather notwithstanding. So you're not going to have a huge dropoff in any case.
  •  11-01-2009, 5:10 PM 1882544 in reply to 1882511

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    niu007:
    beav720:

    Resolute:
    Wolfe wouldn't average no more than 2 or 3 if he got more carries. He's only good in limited situations. YPCs don't always tell the whole story. 5-10 is all he's good for.

    People dont understand this concept. Same can be said for AP. Go look at his stats. The more carries the faster ur c his ypc go down

    Although his ypc may drop with more carries, what I don't agree with is the assumption that after a lot of carries, Wolfe's average would be worse than Forte's, or at least significantly worse, just because he's small, without basing it on any data. We do not know what he is capable of yet at this level, because he never carries it that many times. I'd like to see him get a few more carries. Also, when people talk about leaving a RB in there long enough to get into a rhythm, Wolfe is never in there enough to do that. None of the Bears RBs are going to average many ypc behind this O-line, today's breather notwithstanding. So you're not going to have a huge dropoff in any case.


    In two of the last 3 games, Wolfe's longest run was longer than Forte's longest run.

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  •  11-01-2009, 5:11 PM 1882547 in reply to 1882382

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    porkins:
    SIGN HIM!

    Trust in Lovie
  •  11-01-2009, 5:17 PM 1882568 in reply to 1882547

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Watching the game  closely, I think Forte is missing some holes that are there, dont always balme it on the line. Forte is doing to much of running up the back of his line, I cant count how many times he could have bounced it out and picked up more yards, so some of it is Fortes fault.
  •  11-01-2009, 5:19 PM 1882575 in reply to 1882568

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    anyone have a highlight of wolfe's run today?
  •  11-01-2009, 5:25 PM 1882588 in reply to 1882568

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    68Bearblood:
    Watching the game  closely, I think Forte is missing some holes that are there, dont always balme it on the line. Forte is doing to much of running up the back of his line, I cant count how many times he could have bounced it out and picked up more yards, so some of it is Fortes fault.


    I didn't actually notice that as much this week as some previous weeks. But I wasn't watching for it that closely, I was just glad he was able to get some yardage so we weren't constantly in 2nd and 9 and 3rd and 8 situations.
  •  11-01-2009, 5:36 PM 1882605 in reply to 1882367

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?


    L.M.F.A. O.....I told my wife earlier there would be a thread like this after the game...it was a big run in garbage time that skewed his numbers....GMAFB
  •  11-01-2009, 5:55 PM 1882642 in reply to 1882605

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    bearsfan1985:
    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?


    L.M.F.A. O.....I told my wife earlier there would be a thread like this after the game...it was a big run in garbage time that skewed his numbers....GMAFB


    So I keep hearing that you can't subtract Forte's occasional big run from his average ypc - why can you exclude Wolfe's big run? Anyway, Wolfe's average without that run is 4.25 ypc, vs. Forte's 3.5 ypc. So even if you exclude his big run, and then assume his ypc would drop with more carries, he might still have a better average than Forte.

    Wolfe only got 1 carry that wasn't in mop up time so it's hard to compare. But still, stop trying to rationalize the nice runs that Wolfe has in his limited carries. A lot of backs wouldn't have been fast enough to get the corner on that play, mop up time or not.
  •  11-01-2009, 5:59 PM 1882650 in reply to 1882367

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?
    i still dont understand early on in the game Ron Turner runs him up the middle
  •  11-01-2009, 5:59 PM 1882651 in reply to 1882642

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    Garrett is the King of Garbage Time.
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  •  11-01-2009, 5:59 PM 1882652 in reply to 1882367

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?
    i still dont understand early on in the game Ron Turner runs him up the middle
  •  11-01-2009, 6:27 PM 1882716 in reply to 1882650

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    BEARDIZZY:
    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?
    i still dont understand early on in the game Ron Turner runs him up the middle


    I could understand him running him up the middle, but not every freaking time.
  •  11-01-2009, 6:31 PM 1882728 in reply to 1882367

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    traderumorfromcubs.com:
    Wolfe is now averaging 5.5 yards per carry on the season and the Bears are still giving about 80% of the rushing carries to Matt Forte who couldn't even average 4 yards per carry against the Browns. Is it time to at least go from 80-20 to 65-35?

    He picks it up his yds in garbage time.  Just like the long run he had today!  We seen what Wolf could do when he gets a oppurtunity and thats nothin. 

    He is talanted but with are OL, he wouldt last.  He would get broke.

  •  11-01-2009, 6:32 PM 1882729 in reply to 1882716

    Re: Garrett Wolfe 10.6 YPC vs. Browns

    If we would have given little Wolfe the ball 100 times he would have gotten 1,000 yards!!!!!!!
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