Bear with me (pardon the pun)

I'd like to see Hester play both sides of the ball!

Its time to go old school. Weve got a player good enough to do it.

I believe we should play this D 5 times a game, based on success maybe more.

It should only be run when the opponent is deep in there own territory and would work well with a team like arizona who is mainly a passing threat.

on the line- Harrison on the nose, tommie and mark anderson on the DT, ogun and Brown on the ends - 5 Defensive line man, with an option to pull one back (one of the ends) into coverage.

LB's - Briggs and Roach - really want to put hilly in because he really puts people in the right place- problem is in this D thats hesters job.

DB's - Manning Tillman Vasher(this is a high turnover scoring D)

THE ROVER - Devin Hester - Hesters main responsibility will be deep but he will line up around the line and use his speed to basically run deep field left or right based on the call and matchups.

Hetsers first read is blitz. if there is an open hole through the line(not outside) Hester is to take it

Hesters primary goal is interception so if he reads quick slant or quick out he can jump it (PICK 6).- Note if Hetser chooses to drop deep any interception is basically a punt return and we know what he can do with those!

In short alot of pressure on Hester but i think he would cherish the role

It is a gimmick play somewhat like the wild cat until we really start to run it well

Still an offense has to plan for it

Who better than The Chicago bears to bring a new defense to the league to compete with a new offensive system(wildcat)

Trying to answer all your questions before i get flamed.

Post your comments, then add something to it.

Dont beat it down but lift it up and we may have something special in chicago.

* and before anyone asks - NO I HAVENT TRIED IT IN MADDEN - AND I KNOW THE NFL IS NOT MADDEN

Thnx for listening any feedback is appreciated. I am sending this to the Lovie after weve come to a consensus.

BE SMART YOU ARE FANS!

And we can make a difference!

Umm if you remember correctly the last time Hester played CB for us he was burnt. Also if you do that you have to take him out of Punt Return situations and we are not going to take him out of the return game completely to do something he hasn't done in almost 3 years. This is an awful idea.

The bears do not have the pass rush to ever have success in a 5-2, plus 5-2 is easy for o-linemen to pick up. The only way it isn't is if you rush 6 or more, which leads to my next point

The bears do not have the DBs to run something like this, a QB would only need a few seconds to get the ball to an open receiver. The bears have enough trouble covering WRs with 4-5 DBs, much less 3

I appreciate your response. what would make this defense better? Could we make it work? If its an awful idea I am sorry i wasted your time. Just loving my bears

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The bears do not have the pass rush to ever have success in a 5-2, plus 5-2 is easy for o-linemen to pick up. The only way it isn't is if you rush 6 or more, which leads to my next point

The bears do not have the DBs to run something like this, a QB would only need a few seconds to get the ball to an open receiver. The bears have enough trouble covering WRs with 4-5 DBs, much less 3

Thnx for your response.Actually hester is the sixth rusher. The only way he doesnt rush is if he reads quick slant or out! response pls tell me your position.

Is this not feasible?

more discussion needed please

alali24:

Umm if you remember correctly the last time Hester played CB for us he was burnt. Also if you do that you have to take him out of Punt Return situations and we are not going to take him out of the return game completely to do something he hasn't done in almost 3 years. This is an awful idea.

Yup that idea ranks up there with running Wolfe down the middle but since Turner doesnt run the defense I don't see this even remotely be coming an issue.

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Bear with me (pardon the pun) I'd like to see Hester play both sides of the ball! Its time to go old school. Weve got a player good enough to do it. I believe we should play this D 5 times a game, based on success maybe more. It should only be run when the opponent is deep in there own territory and would work well with a team like arizona who is mainly a passing threat. on the line- Harrison on the nose, tommie and mark anderson on the DT, ogun and Brown on the ends - 5 Defensive line man, with an option to pull one back (one of the ends) into coverage. LB's - Briggs and Roach - really want to put hilly in because he really puts people in the right place- problem is in this D thats hesters job. DB's - Manning Tillman Vasher(this is a high turnover scoring D) THE ROVER - Devin Hester - Hesters main responsibility will be deep but he will line up around the line and use his speed to basically run deep field left or right based on the call and matchups. Hetsers first read is blitz. if there is an open hole through the line(not outside) Hester is to take it Hesters primary goal is interception so if he reads quick slant or quick out he can jump it (PICK 6).- Note if Hetser chooses to drop deep any interception is basically a punt return and we know what he can do with those! In short alot of pressure on Hester but i think he would cherish the role It is a gimmick play somewhat like the wild cat until we really start to run it well Still an offense has to plan for it Who better than The Chicago bears to bring a new defense to the league to compete with a new offensive system(wildcat) Trying to answer all your questions before i get flamed. Post your comments, then add something to it. Dont beat it down but lift it up and we may have something special in chicago. * and before anyone asks - NO I HAVENT TRIED IT IN MADDEN - AND I KNOW THE NFL IS NOT MADDEN Thnx for listening any feedback is appreciated. I am sending this to the Lovie after weve come to a consensus. BE SMART YOU ARE FANS! And we can make a difference!

no we dont need to over use him

Jusponge:

alali24:

Umm if you remember correctly the last time Hester played CB for us he was burnt. Also if you do that you have to take him out of Punt Return situations and we are not going to take him out of the return game completely to do something he hasn't done in almost 3 years. This is an awful idea.

Yup that idea ranks up there with running Wolfe down the middle but since Turner doesnt run the defense I don't see this even remotely be coming an issue.

In this defense he wouldnt be a corner

yep thats my only concern is fatigue. However i think for 5 plays a game its feasible

are you serious?

sayers~payton~benson:

I appreciate your response. what would make this defense better? Could we make it work? If its an awful idea I am sorry i wasted your time. Just loving my bears

Just love the fact that Hester has looked better in every game this year. He keeps getting better and we are starting to see some vision in the run after the catch. I think he's finally thinking less and seeing the field better. He started to get the punt return game going last week. He's developing nicely on Offense, I don't see a need to mess with a good thing right now.

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BringBackDitka:

are you serious?

Actually I am :)

jsarff33:

sayers~payton~benson:

I appreciate your response. what would make this defense better? Could we make it work? If its an awful idea I am sorry i wasted your time. Just loving my bears

Just love the fact that Hester has looked better in every game this year. He keeps getting better and we are starting to see some vision in the run after the catch. I think he's finally thinking less and seeing the field better. He started to get the punt return game going last week. He's developing nicely on Offense, I don't see a need to mess with a good thing right now.

Your point is well taken, thnx for the response.

Wow. I can't believe you're actually serious.

Hester isn't familiar with the defensive scheme(s). Therefore, wouldn't be able to align the defense up properly. Which would require Hillenmeyer to be on the field. On top of that, I don't think he has the recognition skills required to be able to successfully read a quick slant, or to drop deep from his initial blitz assignment, and still be able to make the play. Bad idea. Bad.

If the Bears were to use Hester as a DB, I could possibly see it as the 3rd safety when they play three deep in a hail mary situation. But nothing more than that.

If your 5-2 formation were to be used, chances are you'd see the following:
Defensive Line: Ogunleye, Harris, Harrison, Adams, Brown
Linebackers: Hillenmeyer, Briggs
Defensive Backs: Tillman, Bowman, Afalava, Manning (Rover)

Manning has more experience playing in this defensive scheme, he's just as good an athlete (at least I think he is), and he has good return ability as well.

Also, if you look closely, that formation resembles a 3-4 alignment (with Brown and Ogunleye lined up as the Outside Linebackers) featuring the Free Safety playing center field.

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Carns:

Wow. I can't believe you're actually serious.

Hester isn't familiar with the defensive scheme(s). Therefore, wouldn't be able to align the defense up properly. Which would require Hillenmeyer to be on the field. On top of that, I don't think he has the recognition skills required to be able to successfully read a quick slant, or to drop deep from his initial blitz assignment, and still be able to make the play. Bad idea. Bad.

If the Bears were to use Hester as a DB, I could possibly see it as the 3rd safety when they play three deep in a hail mary situation. But nothing more than that.

If your 5-2 formation were to be used, chances are you'd see the following:
Defensive Line: Ogunleye, Harris, Harrison, Adams, Brown
Linebackers: Hillenmeyer, Briggs
Defensive Backs: Tillman, Bowman, Afalava, Manning (Rover)

Manning has more experience playing in this defensive scheme, he's just as good an athlete (at least I think he is), and he has good return ability as well.

Also, if you look closely, that formation resembles a 3-4 alignment (with Brown and Ogunleye lined up as the Outside Linebackers) featuring the Free Safety playing center field.

Great response, and thnx for your input! I was thinking manning as well. But, with hester out there i thought it was a dual threat. thnx again for your candid response.

I just dont think hester has the smarts for this. manning would have to b rover

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I just dont think hester has the smarts for this. manning would have to b rover

HESTER IS A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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as much as i love devin, he is the absolute last person in the league that you want to be playing on reads.  He'd be the worst person on our team that we could throw into a situation like that and say, if they do this, this, or this, do this, this, or that accordingly, if not do that.  then you have him being responsible for tackling, I never want to see hester preform a textbook tackle in his career, the guy is too small to tackle and for something like a stupid gimmick it would be awful.

What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Let me get this straight, we move Hester from what he was one of the all time greats at KR/PR to wr which took 3 years for him to finally get decent at. Now you want to move him to defense? WTH?

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goalforgould:

as much as i love devin, he is the absolute last person in the league that you want to be playing on reads.  He'd be the worst person on our team that we could throw into a situation like that and say, if they do this, this, or this, do this, this, or that accordingly, if not do that.  then you have him being responsible for tackling, I never want to see hester preform a textbook tackle in his career, the guy is too small to tackle and for something like a stupid gimmick it would be awful.

What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Yep.....

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sayers~payton~benson:

Carns:

Wow. I can't believe you're actually serious.

Hester isn't familiar with the defensive scheme(s). Therefore, wouldn't be able to align the defense up properly. Which would require Hillenmeyer to be on the field. On top of that, I don't think he has the recognition skills required to be able to successfully read a quick slant, or to drop deep from his initial blitz assignment, and still be able to make the play. Bad idea. Bad.

If the Bears were to use Hester as a DB, I could possibly see it as the 3rd safety when they play three deep in a hail mary situation. But nothing more than that.

If your 5-2 formation were to be used, chances are you'd see the following:
Defensive Line: Ogunleye, Harris, Harrison, Adams, Brown
Linebackers: Hillenmeyer, Briggs
Defensive Backs: Tillman, Bowman, Afalava, Manning (Rover)

Manning has more experience playing in this defensive scheme, he's just as good an athlete (at least I think he is), and he has good return ability as well.

Also, if you look closely, that formation resembles a 3-4 alignment (with Brown and Ogunleye lined up as the Outside Linebackers) featuring the Free Safety playing center field.

Great response, and thnx for your input! I was thinking manning as well. But, with hester out there i thought it was a dual threat. thnx again for your candid response.

Manning is faster than Hester. I dont think Hester can do anything defensively that Manning cant (which isnt saying all that much).

even with Hester blitzing all it takes is a RB to pick him up and then you're stuck with 3 DBs on 3 WRs. I'm thinking it would be easy to pick apart.

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goalforgould:

as much as i love devin, he is the absolute last person in the league that you want to be playing on reads.  He'd be the worst person on our team that we could throw into a situation like that and say, if they do this, this, or this, do this, this, or that accordingly, if not do that.  then you have him being responsible for tackling, I never want to see hester preform a textbook tackle in his career, the guy is too small to tackle and for something like a stupid gimmick it would be awful.

What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

You beat me to it

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sayers~payton~benson:

BringBackDitka:

are you serious?

Actually I am :)

Lol, im not hating on your idea, but just your name makes me laugh :P

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