Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

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onebud34:

Political correctness is overrated

Courtesy and respect is not.

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Mozart1220:

onebud34:

Political correctness is overrated

Courtesy and respect is not.

They are not directly related.

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onebud34:

Mozart1220:

onebud34:

Political correctness is overrated

Courtesy and respect is not.

They are not directly related.

Of course they are.

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bearmick:

onebud34:

Mozart1220:

onebud34:

Political correctness is overrated

Courtesy and respect is not.

They are not directly related.

Of course they are.

You don't have to respect something to be politically correct.

 

 

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onebud34:

bearmick:

onebud34:

Mozart1220:

onebud34:

Political correctness is overrated

Courtesy and respect is not.

They are not directly related.

Of course they are.

You don't have to respect something to be politically correct.

 

 

There are different kinds of respect.  The respect one might have for a teacher or mother is a kind of respect..  Moz was talking talking about the basic respect we should afford each other out of simple courtesy as opposed to being ignorant and obnoxious.

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bearmick:

onebud34:

bearmick:

onebud34:

Mozart1220:

onebud34:

Political correctness is overrated

Courtesy and respect is not.

They are not directly related.

Of course they are.

You don't have to respect something to be politically correct.

 

 

There are different kinds of respect.  The respect one might have for a teacher or mother is a kind of respect..  Moz was talking talking about the basic respect we should afford each other out of simple courtesy as opposed to being ignorant and obnoxious.

I hear ya...what I'm saying is that when you might be politically correct you might also be offending or disresepcting. This whole PC thing has gotten way out of whack IMO.

For instance...someone could address an African-America out of "political correctness" but that person would rather be called black.

I'm not one for being obnoxious...but also not one for walking on eggshells for fact I might hurt someones feelings.

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Political correctness in most instances is total BS. I believe in being polite and non-offensive. However political correctness in the present day takes it way to far.

It has gone to the point of being ridiculous. Do we really have to call janitors "waste management engineers'?

Why can't I describe a black person as black? They describe me as white? Why is one ok and not the other? Idon't want to be called european american (in fact I would be offended) why am I supposed to call them african americans?

If one of the black guys I am friends with told me he was insulted by the term I would not use it around him or her to be polite and respectful. However I will not follow liberal political correctness rules simply for the medias sake.

So much of political correctness is just politics. Why are pro-abortionists called pro-choice? If one is pro-life shouldn't the other be pro-death?

More often then not political correctness is simply politicians using this stuff to put themselves in a better light or their poltical enemies in a worst light.

Is there a certain politically correct thing you had in mind Mick? Or was this thread just started to make white males look bad?

I mean I know in liberal country white males are evil incarnate but what exactly are you looking for here?

Mick, Just read the Ft. Hood thread. Now I understand what you are trying to do here.

In some ways you are correct. Christianity went through a very violent period but has moved past that. Islam is still in the dark ages. They do not have an old testament and new testament. They are still in the "kill everyone who believes differently" stage.

That is not to say all muslims feel this way. However most muslims are taught to believe this way from a very young age (certainly higher in some countries then in others). As where christians hundreds of years ago.

While muslims should not be villified they should not be given special protection from law enforcement either due to political correctness.

Their rights need to be protected and I don't think Bush was ever given enough credit from the left for the way he went on and on about how peaceful most muslims are directly after 9-11.

Things could have gotten very ugly if he had not gone out of his way to do this.

If the psychatrist shooter was a white male who had negative evaluations and had been under investigation for posting threats and such on a radical white power website he would have had his weapons taken from him and been relieved of duty while they investigated. I can only guess the reason this man was not was because he was muslim and they were afraid of being poitically incorrect.

Of course none of us have all the answers yet. Perhaps this was not the case maybe they followed the exact same procedure as they would any person in the military and they just did not have enough proof to do anything yet.

If this is the case then it was not poltically correctness that allowed this to happen. However I think it is a fair question to ask? Don't you?

They should also report if every procedure was followed as it should be. Still a bit early in the investiogation and I am sure the truth or something close to it will come out eventually.

bearmick:

Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

Why the generalization about white males?

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Section349:

bearmick:

Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

Why the generalization about white males?

Yea Mick, whats up with that?  Is white males the politically correct term?

 

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Hey Pekin, thanks for the reasonable reply

Political correctness in most instances is total BS. I believe in being polite and non-offensive. However political correctness in the present day takes it way to far. It has gone to the point of being ridiculous. Do we really have to call janitors "waste management engineers'?

Do we though?  I mean who really calls janitors waste management engineers?  I don't think anyone is really expected to take it that far.

Why can't I describe a black person as black? They describe me as white? Why is one ok and not the other? Idon't want to be called european american (in fact I would be offended) why am I supposed to call them african americans? If one of the black guys I am friends with told me he was insulted by the term I would not use it around him or her to be polite and respectful.

I agree and I feel the same way.  I call my black friends black, and I refer to black people as black in their presence.  The only time I would use the term "African American" is if I was speaking about them collectively.  I also don't know any black people who object to being referred to as black.

However I will not follow liberal political correctness rules simply for the medias sake. So much of political correctness is just politics. Why are pro-abortionists called pro-choice? If one is pro-life shouldn't the other be pro-death?

Because they're not pro-death.  Pro-lifers are pro-life because they think women should always carry their pregnancies to term.  I've never heard anyone tell a pregnant woman that it's wrong to carry their pregnancy to term, and say "No, you really ought to be aborting it, giving birth is wrong, you should have an abortion".  That would be pro-death/pro-abortion.  As it is, people like myself who believe it's a woman's perogative what she does with her own body and nobody else's business, are correctly called pro-choice.

More often then not political correctness is simply politicians using this stuff to put themselves in a better light or their poltical enemies in a worst light. Is there a certain politically correct thing you had in mind Mick? Or was this thread just started to make white males look bad? I mean I know in liberal country white males are evil incarnate but what exactly are you looking for here?

Nothing specific, just a curiosity why people complain so much about it.  White males are pretty much at the top of the food chain historically when it comes to the racism/sexism power scheme, and tend to be the group who are the most vocal about being burdened with political correctness (Section349 and Skipmann, I hope this answers your questions too).  It certainly isn't in any way related to the thread about yesterday's shootings, as you alluded to in your other post.  And I don't know anyone who thinks white males are evil incarnate, except perhaps the most twisted Nation of Islam type, but I try not to associate with black racists any more than white ones.

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bearmick:

Hey Pekin, thanks for the reasonable reply

Political correctness in most instances is total BS. I believe in being polite and non-offensive. However political correctness in the present day takes it way to far. It has gone to the point of being ridiculous. Do we really have to call janitors "waste management engineers'?

Do we though?  I mean who really calls janitors waste management engineers?  I don't think anyone is really expected to take it that far.

Why can't I describe a black person as black? They describe me as white? Why is one ok and not the other? Idon't want to be called european american (in fact I would be offended) why am I supposed to call them african americans? If one of the black guys I am friends with told me he was insulted by the term I would not use it around him or her to be polite and respectful.

I agree and I feel the same way.  I call my black friends black, and I refer to black people as black in their presence.  The only time I would use the term "African American" is if I was speaking about them collectively.  I also don't know any black people who object to being referred to as black.

However I will not follow liberal political correctness rules simply for the medias sake. So much of political correctness is just politics. Why are pro-abortionists called pro-choice? If one is pro-life shouldn't the other be pro-death?

Because they're not pro-death.  Pro-lifers are pro-life because they think women should always carry their pregnancies to term.  I've never heard anyone tell a pregnant woman that it's wrong to carry their pregnancy to term, and say "No, you really ought to be aborting it, giving birth is wrong, you should have an abortion".  That would be pro-death/pro-abortion.  As it is, people like myself who believe it's a woman's perogative what she does with her own body and nobody else's business, are correctly called pro-choice.

More often then not political correctness is simply politicians using this stuff to put themselves in a better light or their poltical enemies in a worst light. Is there a certain politically correct thing you had in mind Mick? Or was this thread just started to make white males look bad? I mean I know in liberal country white males are evil incarnate but what exactly are you looking for here?

Nothing specific, just a curiosity why people complain so much about it.  White males are pretty much at the top of the food chain historically when it comes to the racism power scheme, and tend to be the group who are the most vocal about being burdened with political correctness (Section349 and Skipmann, I hope this answers your questions too).  It certainly isn't in any way related to the thread about yesterday's shootings, as you alluded to in your other post.  And I don't know anyone who thinks white males are evil incarnate, except perhaps the most twisted Nation of Islam type, but I try not to associate with black racists any more than white ones.

WOW, I wish there was alot more of this on the board. People having a serious converation and doing it respectfully, and though I am pro-life, mick maybe the perfect and correct arguement about pro-choice not pro-death

bearmick:

Hey Pekin, thanks for the reasonable reply

Political correctness in most instances is total BS. I believe in being polite and non-offensive. However political correctness in the present day takes it way to far. It has gone to the point of being ridiculous. Do we really have to call janitors "waste management engineers'?

Do we though?  I mean who really calls janitors waste management engineers?  I don't think anyone is really expected to take it that far.

Why can't I describe a black person as black? They describe me as white? Why is one ok and not the other? Idon't want to be called european american (in fact I would be offended) why am I supposed to call them african americans? If one of the black guys I am friends with told me he was insulted by the term I would not use it around him or her to be polite and respectful.

I agree and I feel the same way.  I call my black friends black, and I refer to black people as black in their presence.  The only time I would use the term "African American" is if I was speaking about them collectively.  I also don't know any black people who object to being referred to as black.

However I will not follow liberal political correctness rules simply for the medias sake. So much of political correctness is just politics. Why are pro-abortionists called pro-choice? If one is pro-life shouldn't the other be pro-death?

Because they're not pro-death.  Pro-lifers are pro-life because they think women should always carry their pregnancies to term.  I've never heard anyone tell a pregnant woman that it's wrong to carry their pregnancy to term, and say "No, you really ought to be aborting it, giving birth is wrong, you should have an abortion".  That would be pro-death/pro-abortion.  As it is, people like myself who believe it's a woman's perogative what she does with her own body and nobody else's business, are correctly called pro-choice.

More often then not political correctness is simply politicians using this stuff to put themselves in a better light or their poltical enemies in a worst light. Is there a certain politically correct thing you had in mind Mick? Or was this thread just started to make white males look bad? I mean I know in liberal country white males are evil incarnate but what exactly are you looking for here?

Nothing specific, just a curiosity why people complain so much about it.  White males are pretty much at the top of the food chain historically when it comes to the racism/sexism power scheme, and tend to be the group who are the most vocal about being burdened with political correctness (Section349 and Skipmann, I hope this answers your questions too).  It certainly isn't in any way related to the thread about yesterday's shootings, as you alluded to in your other post.  And I don't know anyone who thinks white males are evil incarnate, except perhaps the most twisted Nation of Islam type, but I try not to associate with black racists any more than white ones.

I like that one Mick.....

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bearmick:

Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

Why do non white males bash white males and play the race card?

bearbeav:

 

WOW, I wish there was alot more of this on the board. People having a serious converation and doing it respectfully, and though I am pro-life, mick maybe the perfect and correct arguement about pro-choice not pro-death

Yeah I agree.  I'm as guilty as anyone of letting my emotions get the better of me and descending into impolite talk, but the board is a better place for everyone when we can keep it civil, whether we agree with each other or not. 

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Silvertonlovesdabears:

bearmick:

Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

Why do non white males bash white males and play the race card?

I can't really speak for black males, Silverton, I don't know.  Maybe if one of our black posters sees this thread they'll answer that question.

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bearmick:

Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

Why do white males bash other white males to feel good about themselves?

bearmick:

Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

Why are white males the only ones expected to follow said political correctness?

African American's gives credence to the fact that they are from America. Migrants are hyphenated Americans. Otherwise were Americans though we then fit into subsets like...blacks, midwesterners, Southerners, etc

however these separations are that of a cultural affinity rather than national identity.


I specifically would like to separate pro-life vs pro-abortion or sterilization depending on when life starts. I personally believe in sterilization of pedophiles and violent rapists(through physical castration) and to offer support for teens to have abortions because that's far more economical and they can raise kids better later anyhow. That is not pro-choice at all and the views should never be considered close.

bearmick:

bearbeav:

 

WOW, I wish there was alot more of this on the board. People having a serious converation and doing it respectfully, and though I am pro-life, mick maybe the perfect and correct arguement about pro-choice not pro-death

Yeah I agree.  I'm as guilty as anyone of letting my emotions get the better of me and descending into impolite talk, but the board is a better place for everyone when we can keep it civil, whether we agree with each other or not. 

We all have,  its alot easier to just throw out ur point of view and ignore the other side, and or convert to 5yr old name calling.  I changed my name cause I lost control in one thread and wanted to start anew.  Try and make the board better.

bearmick:

Silvertonlovesdabears:

bearmick:

Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

Why do non white males bash white males and play the race card?

I can't really speak for black males, Silverton, I don't know.  Maybe if one of our black posters sees this thread they'll answer that question.

Why does Mick continuously bait white males?

Decatur Staley:

bearmick:

Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

Why are white males the only ones expected to follow said political correctness?

I don't think they should be.  A purposeful, basic attempt not to offend people should be a courtesy everyone should extend.

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bearmick:

Decatur Staley:

bearmick:

Why are white males so uptight about being asked to just take a second to try and use non-offensive terminology when referring to people different to them?  Do they really feel so persecuted and opressed over this?

Why are white males the only ones expected to follow said political correctness?

I don't think they should be.  A purposeful, basic attempt not to offend people should be a courtesy everyone should extend.

I've got no problem with that... but I would argue that white males are held to a higher standard of expectations for political correctness.

Which might explain why some feel overly persecuted over PC'ness.